Why is Isreal attacking...airports???

[hanselthecaretaker]

I think it was Count Folke Bernadotte. He was a peace mediator for the U.N. or something. An underground Jewish group, the Lohamei Herut Yisrael (Lehi), or "fighters for the freedom of Israel", killed him.

The ironic thing was, he negotiated the release of around 15,000 prisoners from Nazi concentration camps, yet he was killed by a Jewish group!? However, he was a Swedish diplomat, and most of the prisoners he released were Scandinavian. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Strange though that there were that many Scandinavian *cough* aryan POWs in German cc's. I'll need to read more.

 

[redguru]

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but could be somewhat excluded from the Middle East.

Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
Answer: Israel

Pakistan has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) or the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)

Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions?
Answer: Israel

Israel seized control of that territory during a war started by Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The Six Day war.

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Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire?
Answer: Israel

Organizations such as Hezbollah and Hamas routinely fire missiles into Israel from foreign soil such Lebanon, and from Palestinian territory. Neither of those two governments attempt to dissuade, and in fact coddle those organizations.

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?
Answer: Israel

Assassination is also common among suicide bombers, who disguise their appearance and attempt to hit high profile political targets.

Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
Answer: Israel

What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
Answer: Israel

I would need verification of that claim, as I can find no data to support it.

I will suggest to you that a majority of these claims are semantics and half-truths, attempting to prejudice readers against the Israelis. He is an Arab-American and has been known to move in anti-Semite circles.

 

[Blue Star]

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but could be somewhat excluded from the Middle East.

Yes, but Pakistan is not the issue or the problem here, Israel is. China and India have nuclear weapons.

Pakistan has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) or the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)

Neither has India. Also, a lot of other countries have not ratified the CTBT.

What is your point here?

Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)?

Assassination is also common among suicide bombers, who disguise their appearance and attempt to hit high profile political targets.

So you're saying its justifiable for a democratic government to carry out assassination and terrorism, Whilst its trying to fight the latter? Is this not hypocrisy?

Originally Posted by hanselthecaretaker
Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
Answer: Israel

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/new_web/israel_violate_purity_arms.htm

I would need verification of that claim, as I can find no data to support it.

will suggest to you that a majority of these claims are semantics and half-truths, attempting to prejudice readers against the Israelis. He is an Arab-American and has been known to move in anti-Semite circles.

Can you corroborate your claims?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but could be somewhat excluded from the Middle East.



Pakistan has not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) or the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)



Israel seized control of that territory during a war started by Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The Six Day war.


Organizations such as Hezbollah and Hamas routinely fire missiles into Israel from foreign soil such Lebanon, and from Palestinian territory. Neither of those two governments attempt to dissuade, and in fact coddle those organizations.



Assassination is also common among suicide bombers, who disguise their appearance and attempt to hit high profile political targets.



I would need verification of that claim, as I can find no data to support it.

I will suggest to you that a majority of these claims are semantics and half-truths, attempting to prejudice readers against the Israelis. He is an Arab-American and has been known to move in anti-Semite circles.

It's a possibility, but the guy I mentioned above wasn't -

http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/BasicFactsheet____4198.aspx

excerpt on his assassination:

The assassination of the UN mediator in Palestine sent a shock wave around the world. All flags in Sweden flew at half staff. Memorial services were held all over the world. The funeral procession of Folke Bernadotte was watched by hundreds of thousands of Stockholmers. The United Nations and the major powers condemned the deed. But no sanctions or other practical actions against Israel were ever undertaken. The UN swallowed this astounding challenge. Both in Israel and the Arab states, respect and trust for the world organization vanished. In Israel, the assassination of Bernadotte was viewed with indifference. The police in Jerusalem made no real effort to arrest the murderer.

After his death, Bernadotte’s second plan was also abandoned. The final blow came when President Truman, facing an uphill battle in the autumn 1948 U.S. presidential election campaign, repudiated Bernadotte’s proposals in a pro-Israeli declaration on October 28. In the United Nations, a strange alignment of forces, comprising the Arab states and their allies, and Israel and her supporters, including the Soviet bloc, together rejected the mediator’s plan. After the United States withdrew its support, the British could not push the Bernadotte plan through the UN alone.


What you said may have some merit to it, but is not surprising in any case considering his view is still that of the under-dog.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I will suggest to you that a majority of these claims are semantics and half-truths, attempting to prejudice readers against the Israelis. He is an Arab-American and has been known to move in anti-Semite circles.

Can you corroborate your claims?

I'll do it for him, although I doubt there's much reason for anyone to point a finger and hiss just because he's an Arab American, as there already seem to be quite a few of whom I highly doubt harbor any terrorist tendecies-

http://www.aaiusa.org/arab-americans/23/famous-arab-americans

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I had an American friend who came over to do an Internship for one of the big American banks based in London. Me and him would debate endlessly over many issues, and one of those was Israel/jewish influence over the USA.

He was more in the loop so to speak, and he said that the "jews run things in America". I kind of agreed with him on this matter.

...of course though, any idea that is of unpopular opinion would be looked at as merely "conspiracy theory". Well, if so, who do you think is largely responsible for making it unpopular?

lol

 

[PICK3]

Because they heard O.J. was running through it.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Because they heard O.J. was running through it.

I heard that sales of (specifically) white Ford Broncos went way the hell up after that freeway chase lol.

 

[redguru]

It's a possibility, but the guy I mentioned above wasn't -

http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/BasicFactsheet____4198.aspx

excerpt on his assassination:

The assassination of the UN mediator in Palestine sent a shock wave around the world. All flags in Sweden flew at half staff. Memorial services were held all over the world. The funeral procession of Folke Bernadotte was watched by hundreds of thousands of Stockholmers. The United Nations and the major powers condemned the deed. But no sanctions or other practical actions against Israel were ever undertaken. The UN swallowed this astounding challenge. Both in Israel and the Arab states, respect and trust for the world organization vanished. In Israel, the assassination of Bernadotte was viewed with indifference. The police in Jerusalem made no real effort to arrest the murderer.

After his death, Bernadotte’s second plan was also abandoned. The final blow came when President Truman, facing an uphill battle in the autumn 1948 U.S. presidential election campaign, repudiated Bernadotte’s proposals in a pro-Israeli declaration on October 28. In the United Nations, a strange alignment of forces, comprising the Arab states and their allies, and Israel and her supporters, including the Soviet bloc, together rejected the mediator’s plan. After the United States withdrew its support, the British could not push the Bernadotte plan through the UN alone.


What you said may have some merit to it, but is not surprising in any case considering his view is still that of the under-dog.

He was assassinated by extremists. Zealots, I don't like of any stripe. Not assassinated at the behest of those in position to negotiate a Palestinian truce at the time.

In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Answer: At the time the country was still Palestine. He was assassinated by extremists, not the Israeli government.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

He was assassinated by extremists. Zealots, I don't like of any stripe. Not assassinated at the behest of those in position to negotiate a Palestinian truce at the time.

In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated?

Answer: At the time the country was still Palestine.

...which was still part of the Jewish state at the time.

He was assassinated by extremists, not the Israeli government.

I know.