What's the problem with Clen?

[jacshelb]

I've done clen numerous times and not noticed a ton of results. The only time I've noticed something really great was when I was already around 8% bf and hadn't touched it for a year. I did two weeks of it, moderate doses between 40 and 100 mcg per day, and it knocked off a nice little amount of fat. So yeah it works. And, if you use it in conjunction with proper diet and cardio and in low-moderate doses you won't likely be bombarded by horrible sides. That's the positive.

The negative, in my experience, is that I've lost more fat in a week of using low dose ECA with proper diet and cardio than any two weeks of clen, no joke! Now, maybe that's just me. The ECA lowered my appetite and maybe just works for me, idk. But, I'm contest dieting right now and I haven't lost shit in the last week and a half on clen and keto diet! Now, granted I'm half-way into my diet and maybe on a little plateau. But, I'm guessing that in a few days when I go back to ECA I'm going to notice the fat loss again. I'd put money on it. And, clen does cause anxiety, especially when using at a dose that works. I can sleep because I take melatonin and benedryl, but wouldn't be able to very well without it.

Bottom line: you can use it and get some results if you make it "part" of your diet and training plan. But, in no way rely on it! As long as you are on something anabolic, ECA works pretty damn well with more controllable side-effects.

 

[holzy3]

any supporters of Clen? just wondering....

i love it also. but like anything without hard work and diet it will not do a thing. as many people will tell you it is not a miracle drug.

 

[Tatyana]

This is the other issue with clen.

Your body upregulates the beta-2 receptors so quickly, it will only work for 1-3 weeks without having to increase the dose.

Increase the dose, greater chance of killing heart cells.

As well, clen also suppresses the thyroid gland, so if you run it on its own, then your thyroid/metabolism will be sluggish, and even with a good diet/cardio, fat rebound.

Some people try to avoid this by running clen with T3. Great, execept that T3 is not specific to fat, it will also burn muscle, so unless you are running an anabolic with it, you may burn off your hard earned muscle.

And again, with clen suppressing thyroid, and T3 feeding back to the hypothalamus saying 'no TSH required thanks, we have loads of thyroid hormones here', your thyroid will be even FURTHER suppressed.

Come off both of these drugs, your metabolism will be slow.

REBOUND and your ass gets fat again, often even more than you had before.

These are comp prep drugs, for people who need to be ultra lean for a BBing comp, and then I also think that if you have the potential to make MONEY from it, and know the risks, it is up to you.

For a regular lifestyle to get lean, look great, be fit and healthy, there is NO PLACE for these drugs.

The effect is often temporary, and there is no substitution for lifestyle modifications so you will look fantastic your entire life.

Cause really, when you think about it, you are NOT going to be a sexy 40-50-60+ year old man or woman taking bloody clen and T3.

Your body/heart will just not tolerate it, and you may be doing damage while you take it when you are younger.

(I do think most of you will be on HRT, but that is a different issue)

 

[mosquiton_001]

i love it also. but like anything without hard work and diet it will not do a thing. as many people will tell you it is not a miracle drug.

quote I agree

I've used it... don't do miracles but kinda works..

cramps can be easily avoided taking tauring (5/7g) every day..


another think i noticed that even doing a very low cal and low carbo diet i don get to much Weak and "empty"... it's just if makes my muscles harder even if I am out of glycogen...

just my experience,,

 

[swole]

if you're not competing and using clen you're stupid.

arnold didn't use clen. you can look like that with basic compounds.

but in modern day competition where dudes are bigger and leaner, i can see why a pro would use it

but the average joe? cmon

 

[DidiXterra]

Eddy posted a pretty scary study of the affects of clen in adding what is basically scar tissue to the heart (it was collagen or something).

But all studies aside, it has known bad side affects, and doesn't lose you much more weight than diet, exercise, and a safe fat burner (at least for me). Also I couldn't lift at all on the shit because of muscle cramps. Who cares how much fat you lose if you can't lift for a month?

+1 ...Yeah, that scared me as well... I read a few things about how it effects the heart outside of EF as well. Most people think it is just the increased heartbeat you should look out for. But it is the build up in the heart that occurs that is the most dangerous... I leave it alone

 

[Aquamarine]

I recently tried a Clen/T3 cycle. Went on for 2 weeks and just as I was coming off for 2 weeks I developed pericarditis (inflammation around the lining of the heart) I can't necessarily say its from the Clen, but Ive never had any health issues like this before. The only other bad sides I noticed was the cramping until I started drinking enough water, adding in some potassium/magnesium and taking the Taurine.

I'm a huge cardio freak and this is definitely affecting my training, making me wish I had just stuck to the diet and exercise. Yes, I could probably have tuned my diet up a little more and lifted a little harder....instead of looking for a shortcut....

Just something else to think about as anyone weighs the pros/cons of taking clen. ECA stack for me next time...after the diet is 100% in check.

 

[LiquidPhire]

I recently tried a Clen/T3 cycle. Went on for 2 weeks and just as I was coming off for 2 weeks I developed pericarditis (inflammation around the lining of the heart) I can't necessarily say its from the Clen, but Ive never had any health issues like this before. The only other bad sides I noticed was the cramping until I started drinking enough water, adding in some potassium/magnesium and taking the Taurine.

I'm a huge cardio freak and this is definitely affecting my training, making me wish I had just stuck to the diet and exercise. Yes, I could probably have tuned my diet up a little more and lifted a little harder....instead of looking for a shortcut....

Just something else to think about as anyone weighs the pros/cons of taking clen. ECA stack for me next time...after the diet is 100% in check.

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This is my real life girlfriend and yes what she said is true..

 

[LittleG]

If you take clen for 4 weeks, then get off for good, will you get the heart side effects?

 

[LiquidPhire]

If you take clen for 4 weeks, then get off for good, will you get the heart side effects?

Not sure but my girlfriend used the liquid clen/t3 I got her and she is healthy, never used any drugs in her life doesnt even like to take aspirin and what she said about pericarditis is true. Exercises 2x a day (cardio) and eats clean. More for me I guess