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What's the problem with Clen?

digger said:
Someone was talking about measuring the liquid rather than taking it as pills... but the effective dose is measured in MICROGRAMS. If you screw up and get half a drop too much of the liquid you're suddenly overdosing by fifty or even a hundred percent.

Accession number & update
16127201 Medline 20050101.

Title
Myocardial infarction in a 17-year-old body builder using clenbuterol.

Source
Circulation journal : official journal of the Japanese Circulation Society, {Circ-J}, Sep 2005, vol. 69, no. 9, p. 1144-6, ISSN: 1346-9843.

Author(s)
Kierzkowska-Beata, Stanczyk-Jerzy, Kasprzak-Jaroslaw-D.

Author affiliation

Department of Paediatric Cardiology, Institute of Paediatrics, Medical University Lodz, Poland.

Abstract

A case of non-Q myocardial infarction in a previously healthy 17-year-old body builder, who used clenbuterol, a long-acting beta(2) adrenergic agonist with anabolic and lipolytic effects, is reported. Only 1 case report of myocardial infarction associated with the use of clenbuterol was found in a literature review and that case was, however, associated with anabolic steroid use. This is the first case report to describe myocardial infarction in a young male body builder only taking clenbuterol.
 
timtim said:
its always been dangerous. people just realized that the heart doesnt regenerate and clen causes heart issues. not worth it. diet harder, clen isnt making nearly as much of a difference as people want to believe it is.
i agree with your statement 100 %. i see and hear so many people asking for and talking about clen as if it is some magic pill.and of course,all these people are the ones that have a shit diet and don't train hard.they see the results of people that have put in the dedication and discipline and are at the end finishing up their look with clen and asssume it is just the clen and it will do the same for them.it will dry them up for a while and they will think they have made significant bodyfat loss only to realize later that it was alot of water loss for the most part.
 
jungle4321 said:
Why is it that people have begub to fear clen more and more? I love the stuff! Has there been new research that shows it is dangerous?


some just cant tolerate the side associated with clen (shakiness, increased heart rate)
 
I think that Clen is fantastic, but I do not have an alpha personality or blood pressure issues. If you have any blood pressure issues or anxiety issues, stay away from clen. If you have alpha type personality issues, you can take it, but stay away from your friends or you may lose them in the end. The only issue that I have ever had with clen was sleeping. Even when Yohimbine/Norephedra stacks were in existence, I still had sleep issues. My biggest concern with liquid clens is people making the dosages right. With the old clen blisterpaks, you have a tablet with a set dosage premeasured. With the liquids, you don't actually get anything to accurately measure out a dosage, so then you have to get insulin pins to make sure you are getting a dosage that won't make your heart explode.

My advice is to make sure your rodents are getting accurate dosages and invest a few dollars in a set of pins and syringes.
 
i experienced many negative sides, such as horrible shaking, night sweats, headaches (which resolved), but didn't have noticeable positive sides. Affects everybody differently I guess...
 
Tatyana said:
Accession number & update
16127201 Medline 20050101.

Title
Myocardial infarction in a 17-year-old body builder using clenbuterol.

Source
Circulation journal : official journal of the Japanese Circulation Society, {Circ-J}, Sep 2005, vol. 69, no. 9, p. 1144-6, ISSN: 1346-9843.

Author(s)
Kierzkowska-Beata, Stanczyk-Jerzy, Kasprzak-Jaroslaw-D.

Author affiliation

Department of Paediatric Cardiology, Institute of Paediatrics, Medical University Lodz, Poland.

Abstract

A case of non-Q myocardial infarction in a previously healthy 17-year-old body builder, who used clenbuterol, a long-acting beta(2) adrenergic agonist with anabolic and lipolytic effects, is reported. Only 1 case report of myocardial infarction associated with the use of clenbuterol was found in a literature review and that case was, however, associated with anabolic steroid use. This is the first case report to describe myocardial infarction in a young male body builder only taking clenbuterol.

One bad case does not refute the benifits of clen.....look what happened to efedra in the states. A few people abused it and that brought publicity. Makes me wonder if that is what has happend with clen.

Thanks for all your replies!
 
Too dangerous. Contest prep, ok. But honestly, if you're in a major BB competition, you should already know how dangerous it is.

I don't like the idea of using any vet drug. Its not made specifically for humans.
 
jungle4321 said:
One bad case does not refute the benifits of clen.....look what happened to efedra in the states. A few people abused it and that brought publicity. Makes me wonder if that is what has happend with clen.

Thanks for all your replies!

This was in response to Digger and the dosing. If you get the dosing incorrect, acute clenbuterol poisoning is known to cause serious heart problems.

I have seen other cases of acute clenbuterol poisoning, there are usually issues with heart rate and breathing.
 
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