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what's the point of bulking for gaining muscle?
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crossy
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harbinator said:
I was just about to put the same thing. People ask for advice and then think they already know better. There is so many people on this thread alone that can offer loads of decent advice so my advice would be shut up and listen up and let the bros who have been there and done it tell you how its done.
JKurz1
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Orignial POSTER?? WHo the hell cares...it's still ineresting to see how everyone does it.....I just can't stand limiting carbs on the two off days I do have...I'm topping out around 300 easily right now....next month will be prob. 1 1/2 times that if not more.....THEN, I'll slice up and be show ready...........project 2008, 2009.
I know, I've said it before, with with the Guru I have in my back pocket who is feeding me all the knowledge *training, diet, AAS* I need to be on stage, I'll be there......I have a six pack now (thats fading) but when I come back, it'll be 8.....marke it down.
I know, I've said it before, with with the Guru I have in my back pocket who is feeding me all the knowledge *training, diet, AAS* I need to be on stage, I'll be there......I have a six pack now (thats fading) but when I come back, it'll be 8.....marke it down.
YoungIntricateMuscle
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ok.....i never said i know better.....im just telling you what i learned with my body with bulking the past 4 months. I know that if i bulk just another 4 months in the same fashion i will end up being pretty fat.
Here is a reference - The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that "because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day."
In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies
So if the best recorded was 18.4 lbs of muscle in one year with high level athlethes that equates to .35 lbs of muscle per week. So for an ectomorph or a person with bad genitics say it's 75% of what a genetically gifted person gains then that's like .26 pounds of muscle per week. To make .26 pounds of muscle you need only 20 calories over maintance everyday mathematically. When i say maintance i include the 200 calories burned in the gym and if doing other activities like mma thats another 200 calories extra. So really 420 cal over rested maintance.
I just don't like the fact that its so advertised to get 300g of protein a day and 500-1000 calories over maintance a day and drinking all these protein shakes and wasting your money like it will really help you that much.
As for "tight reps" and working "tendons" this is something im experimenting with and i realized my form could be a lot better for squats when i was doing the 5x5 and getting cocky with weights and trying to squat 195 for 5 reps with really bad form when i can only squat 155 with perfect form and making the right pauses and controlling the weight.
Here is a reference - The Colgan Institute of Nutritional Sciences (located in San Diego, CA) run by Dr Michael Colgan PHD, a leading sport nutritionist explains that in his extensive experience, the most muscle gain he or any of his colleagues have recorded over a year was 18 1/4 lbs. Dr Colgan goes on to state that "because of the limiting rate of turnover in the muscle cells it is impossible to grow more than an ounce of new muscle each day."
In non-complicated, mathematical terms, this would equate to roughly 23 pounds in a year! Keep in mind that high-level athletes are the subjects of these studies
So if the best recorded was 18.4 lbs of muscle in one year with high level athlethes that equates to .35 lbs of muscle per week. So for an ectomorph or a person with bad genitics say it's 75% of what a genetically gifted person gains then that's like .26 pounds of muscle per week. To make .26 pounds of muscle you need only 20 calories over maintance everyday mathematically. When i say maintance i include the 200 calories burned in the gym and if doing other activities like mma thats another 200 calories extra. So really 420 cal over rested maintance.
I just don't like the fact that its so advertised to get 300g of protein a day and 500-1000 calories over maintance a day and drinking all these protein shakes and wasting your money like it will really help you that much.
As for "tight reps" and working "tendons" this is something im experimenting with and i realized my form could be a lot better for squats when i was doing the 5x5 and getting cocky with weights and trying to squat 195 for 5 reps with really bad form when i can only squat 155 with perfect form and making the right pauses and controlling the weight.
