Whats everyone bench ?

[DaveTSI]

are you serious about the leg press thing?? obviously, you've never professionally trained and know that this is a NATIONAL standard for assessing strength for training clients. look it up. the standard is the bench press, and leg press, these are done due to no load on the spine and safety reasons. someone who has never done any exercise at all could never properly perform squats, especially at 1RM loads, you'd be asking for a lawsuit. but hey, it's funny right?(lots of things can be funny when you don't understand it) the guy asked why i said it didn't count to me, i explained it. i think that's what a lot of other guys on here think. and it's funny that ONLY in power lifting does the assist of a shirt count for a 1RM lift. all others- football, wrestling, and any other sport where they have periodized lifting schedules don't allow it. but the one that REALLY matters- powerlifting- out of all other sports, allows it. so it must be good, huh??? yep, that makes a lot of fuckin sense.

ive seen you around for a long time bro, i know your smart and have some good things to say most of the time....but ^this^ post really sucks balls

 

[DaveTSI]

please will the BB's stop bashing powerlifters and shirts. You all have a huge misunderstanding of the shirts and everything that goes into making them work. PLEASE one of you pretty boy fucks load your max on a bench, add 150lbs, then put a bench shirt on and try it. NO! put 50lbs. over your max on it and give it a go. YOU WOULD ALL FAIL! Not one of you has any clue.

Or you could try this..... max out as often as we do for a month, just dont use the "cheater" shirts we do. See how your joints like it. Most of you probably arent strong enough but maybe even some of you could manage to blow a rotator cuff or tear a peck. Good thing you avoided using a shirt now you look really admirable and honest, everyone in your gym will respect you much more because you didnt use supportive gear.

btw I weigh 200lbs and bench well over 400 raw, most of you pussies couldnt touch that with a shirt and your fag training partner curling it

 

[bsdgeek]

Leg press produces no load on the spine...are you serious? When you do a leg press all the weight is pushing against your pelvis and lower back...and in a very unnatural way too.

It can be one of the worst exercises for people with back injuries and the weight that one needs to stress the legs adequately is way in excess of what is needed in the squat.

i agree it can be bad for the spine, but it doesn't load it- ie- it doesn't compress vertebrae , and it is a safer mechanism for measuring lower body strength in untrained individuals. again- read my entire post, not a portion of it, i said untrained, meaning they have never trained, and have gone through the interview process where they have been cleared by their doc for physical exercise. usually, you're not going to get into weight that will cause hip fexion to the extent of causing undue stress to the lumbar region.

also, people with lower back issues do train with the leg press, not the squat.

 

[bsdgeek]

WHAT???
So if a NFL player gets caught using a bench press shirt he's fined or something? LOL.
Football players (or other non iron junkies) generally never push themselves in the weight room, and never for a max rep. They use weights to improve their game, and won't risk injury in the Gym.
Powerlifters put it all on the line, and except that training injuries are part of the sport.
Bottom line: A bench shirt can be a great training tool, and will help increase your raw bench as well as your shirted bench, and can help increase muscle thickness and tendon/joint strength as well.
I'm living proof - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8503uwx&s=1 From November 11th 2007, at 6'6" 317 and 45 years of age.

bro, you specifically asked why i didn't count a bench with a shirt. i gave my reason, and samoth mocked me, i then retaliated. that's all, if you count it with a shirt, then count it, as a personal trainer, i can't. that's the whole point here.

 

[bsdgeek]

please will the BB's stop bashing powerlifters and shirts. You all have a huge misunderstanding of the shirts and everything that goes into making them work. PLEASE one of you pretty boy fucks load your max on a bench, add 150lbs, then put a bench shirt on and try it. NO! put 50lbs. over your max on it and give it a go. YOU WOULD ALL FAIL! Not one of you has any clue.

Or you could try this..... max out as often as we do for a month, just dont use the "cheater" shirts we do. See how your joints like it. Most of you probably arent strong enough but maybe even some of you could manage to blow a rotator cuff or tear a peck. Good thing you avoided using a shirt now you look really admirable and honest, everyone in your gym will respect you much more because you didnt use supportive gear.

btw I weigh 200lbs and bench well over 400 raw, most of you pussies couldnt touch that with a shirt and your fag training partner curling it

obviously, i have hit a nerve with my power lifting comrades. bro, i wasn't attacking you, nor the sport of powerlifting. i agree, i wouldn't want to do it, and most of the guys on here wouldn't either. i also know that shirts sometime give some guys an extra boost, and some are just what they are supposed to be- support equipment. i'm all for support equipment, and i think that some of the guys on here are too, but they were primarily talking about the ones that actually help with the lift.

let's be real clear here gentlemen, i previously stated that i didn't count a bench max with a shirt on. ---ME---personally---I DON'T COUNT IT- FOR WHAT I DO. i can't, but i'm not coaching powerlifters, nor am i training them. i know a few guys that do, and they have very, very different methods of training, and it's a very different world.

so, back to my stand, i can't count it. and the reason is, i'm not training powerlifters, nor do i personally participate in it. and i really have no reason to try to rep a weight 1 time, just to see how much i can press, i'm past that point in my life. you guys can have it.

 

[bsdgeek]

ive seen you around for a long time bro, i know your smart and have some good things to say most of the time....but ^this^ post really sucks balls

Dave, my good bro, i wasn't tryin to say anything bad about powerlifting, although, i look back at it now, and it does come across pretty shitty huh? for that, my bad, i apologize. i wasn't tryin to slam, nor disrespect the powerlifting community nor you. i was in a moment with being mocked, that i lost control of my fingering of the keyboard. i was trying to make a point, and went a little far.

we good bro?

 

[SMALLSUCKS702]

HOLY SHIT, talk about high jacking a thread.....

 

[bsdgeek]

HOLY SHIT, talk about high jacking a thread.....

yeah bro, sorry..LOL i think i managed to piss some peeps off- unintentionally.

 

[Jon79]

i really dont care how much i lift

just that i am excelling at bb and progressing nicely....

i am trying to gain slowly.....nice lean gains over time.....

well see how it goes

 

[needtogetaas]

WHAT???
So if a NFL player gets caught using a bench press shirt he's fined or something? LOL.
Football players (or other non iron junkies) generally never push themselves in the weight room, and never for a max rep. They use weights to improve their game, and won't risk injury in the Gym.
Powerlifters put it all on the line, and except that training injuries are part of the sport.
Bottom line: A bench shirt can be a great training tool, and will help increase your raw bench as well as your shirted bench, and can help increase muscle thickness and tendon/joint strength as well.
I'm living proof - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8503uwx&s=1 From November 11th 2007, at 6'6" 317 and 45 years of age.

Ya I never work 1 max reps ether. I do 3 rep max 365 bench. I like to think I train like a power lifter though. I keep reps low and weights high. I just don't like 1 rep maxing lifts.