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Whats everyone bench ?

perryscoon said:
How many lbs advantage does a bench shirt give you?
That totally depends on many factors.
1) Shirt won't give you anything without lots of practice, and shirt specific training, i.e. training your lock out.
2) If your strong in the triceps and weak in the pecs, a shirt can help considerably.
3) If your stong in the pecs and weak in the triceps with long arms, the shirt helps very little.
4) There are dozen's of types of shirts, all having different advantages, and favoring different body types, and lifting styles.
5) The best of the best with years of practice can bench 300 pounds more with a triple ply open backed shirt than they can raw.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
That totally depends on many factors.
1) Shirt won't give you anything without lots of practice, and shirt specific training, i.e. training your lock out.
2) If your strong in the triceps and weak in the pecs, a shirt can help considerably.
3) If your stong in the pecs and weak in the triceps with long arms, the shirt helps very little.
4) There are dozen's of types of shirts, all having different advantages, and favoring different body types, and lifting styles.
5) The best of the best with years of practice can bench 300 pounds more with a triple ply open backed shirt than they can raw.[/QUOTE]

I never agreed with these for the exact reason u list, 300 lbs more than raw. They have to waddle around with that thing on. The only way they can bend there arms is if there is 500+lbs forcing them down.
 
^^^ I'm sorry, I have to agree with my guys, if you can't bench it without any assistance from a rubberband(shirt, suit, whatever), then in my book, it doesn't count. Also, as mentioned earlier, if you have to lift your ass off the bench, or if you lose form, it doesn't count either.
 
bsdgeek said:
^^^ I'm sorry, I have to agree with my guys, if you can't bench it without any assistance from a rubberband(shirt, suit, whatever), then in my book, it doesn't count. Also, as mentioned earlier, if you have to lift your ass off the bench, or if you lose form, it doesn't count either.
Count for what?
In competition it counts.
For muscle building it counts.
I agree things have gotten out of hand. What was once used for shoulder safety, now is used for performace.
But if you can name one other sport where modern equipment has not helped increase performance, I might concede your point.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Count for what?
In competition it counts.
For muscle building it counts.
I agree things have gotten out of hand. What was once used for shoulder safety, now is used for performace.
But if you can name one other sport where modern equipment has not helped increase performance, I might concede your point.

not every competition. my buddy is in natural masters powerlifting here in the states and in his governing body they are not allowed.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Count for what?
In competition it counts.
For muscle building it counts.
I agree things have gotten out of hand. What was once used for shoulder safety, now is used for performace.
But if you can name one other sport where modern equipment has not helped increase performance, I might concede your point.


for strength assessments. in strength assessments you use the flat bench or leg press to have a base line for fitness programs. if you're wearing a bench shirt, and you press several times more weight than your actual 1RM, i- as a personal trainer am going to set you up for injury. i agree that it has gotten out of hand, but what used to be considered a safety item, like you said, has now become an assist. for example: if i can bench 100 lbs by myself, but 200 lbs with my spotter helping me get it up, does that count?
 
8and20 said:
not every competition. my buddy is in natural masters powerlifting here in the states and in his governing body they are not allowed.

yep, that's what i thought too, i have seen some guys still using the old type support shirts though, but not in comps
 
new to the board my one rep max was 525 i am 6'3" at the time weighed 315 bf was at 12 % gettin back now after a shoulder injury from football i can do 405 for a set of 10 now
 
tank5469 said:
new to the board my one rep max was 525 i am 6'3" at the time weighed 315 bf was at 12 % gettin back now after a shoulder injury from football i can do 405 for a set of 10 now


ur 6'3 and 315 with 12 percent body fat? lets see a pic.....if thats true are as big as ronnie coleman
 
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