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Whats everyone bench ?

From what people are saying about bench shirts, I can't see how they can be legal in competition. If you've got a force trying to push the weight up besides your own, then it seems like an obvious enhanced lift to me. But I'm no powerlifter, so what do i know...
 
perryscoon said:
From what people are saying about bench shirts, I can't see how they can be legal in competition. If you've got a force trying to push the weight up besides your own, then it seems like an obvious enhanced lift to me. But I'm no powerlifter, so what do i know...

I know, dude. My and my friends play hardcore flag football in my backyard, and we all agree that those NFL guys are pussies. How can all those pads be legal in a game? We're obviously better football players than them, right? :rolleyes:

I can throw out another dozen analogies if anyone would like, but this thread is digressing from how much can you bench to what is a proper bench press. It's funny that PLers don't go around whining and making excuses that BBers, generally speaking, have lower body fat... yet BBers still whine about PLers lifting more than them. These are different sports with different rules, people. Get over it.

And LMAO @ the guy talking down about shirts and benching yet uses the leg press instead of the squat. Lemme guess, most of you anti-shirt guys use straps when you deadlift, too... but that's not cheating! (yeah, it's not cheating when you can't even hold on to the fuckin' bar in the first place, lol.)





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As much as I love BBer versus PLer jokes, perhaps this thread would probably be better served if posters mentioned whether they were a BBer or a PLer. That way, the BBers won't feel so intimidated. :D

And all of you BBers can compare hammer strength bench numbers while flexing in the mirror. :D :D :D



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you say straps are cheating but bench press shirts are completely cheating to me...how much does a shirt add to ur bench? 40 plus pounds prolly......i know this guy in my gym that does powerlifting competitions....i watch him in the gym and he BARELY puts up 315 one time....but in his competition his bench is like 345-350 because of the shirt....how can he go around and tell people 350 is his max bench?
 
samoth said:
And LMAO @ the guy talking down about shirts and benching yet uses the leg press instead of the squat. Lemme guess, most of you anti-shirt guys use straps when you deadlift, too... but that's not cheating! (yeah, it's not cheating when you can't even hold on to the fuckin' bar in the first place, lol.)
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are you serious about the leg press thing?? obviously, you've never professionally trained and know that this is a NATIONAL standard for assessing strength for training clients. look it up. the standard is the bench press, and leg press, these are done due to no load on the spine and safety reasons. someone who has never done any exercise at all could never properly perform squats, especially at 1RM loads, you'd be asking for a lawsuit. but hey, it's funny right?(lots of things can be funny when you don't understand it) the guy asked why i said it didn't count to me, i explained it. i think that's what a lot of other guys on here think. and it's funny that ONLY in power lifting does the assist of a shirt count for a 1RM lift. all others- football, wrestling, and any other sport where they have periodized lifting schedules don't allow it. but the one that REALLY matters- powerlifting- out of all other sports, allows it. so it must be good, huh??? yep, that makes a lot of fuckin sense.
 
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bsdgeek said:
for example: if i can bench 100 lbs by myself, but 200 lbs with my spotter helping me get it up, does that count?


this example is apples to apples.
 
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bsdgeek said:
are you serious about the leg press thing?? obviously, you've never professionally trained and know that this is a NATIONAL standard for assessing strength for training clients. look it up. the standard is the bench press, and leg press, these are done due to no load on the spine and safety reasons. someone who has never done any exercise at all could never properly perform squats, especially at 1RM loads, you'd be asking for a lawsuit. but hey, it's funny right?(lots of things can be funny when you don't understand it) the guy asked why i said it didn't count to me, i explained it. i think that's what a lot of other guys on here think. and it's funny that ONLY in power lifting does the assist of a shirt count for a 1RM lift. all others- football, wrestling, and any other sport where they have periodized lifting schedules don't allow it. but the one that REALLY matters- powerlifting- out of all other sports, allows it. so it must be good, huh??? yep, that makes a lot of fuckin sense.

Leg press produces no load on the spine...are you serious? When you do a leg press all the weight is pushing against your pelvis and lower back...and in a very unnatural way too.

It can be one of the worst exercises for people with back injuries and the weight that one needs to stress the legs adequately is way in excess of what is needed in the squat.
 
bsdgeek said:
are you serious about the leg press thing?? obviously, you've never professionally trained and know that this is a NATIONAL standard for assessing strength for training clients. look it up. the standard is the bench press, and leg press, these are done due to no load on the spine and safety reasons. someone who has never done any exercise at all could never properly perform squats, especially at 1RM loads, you'd be asking for a lawsuit. but hey, it's funny right?(lots of things can be funny when you don't understand it) the guy asked why i said it didn't count to me, i explained it. i think that's what a lot of other guys on here think. and it's funny that ONLY in power lifting does the assist of a shirt count for a 1RM lift. all others- football, wrestling, and any other sport where they have periodized lifting schedules don't allow it. but the one that REALLY matters- powerlifting- out of all other sports, allows it. so it must be good, huh??? yep, that makes a lot of fuckin sense.
WHAT???
So if a NFL player gets caught using a bench press shirt he's fined or something? LOL.
Football players (or other non iron junkies) generally never push themselves in the weight room, and never for a max rep. They use weights to improve their game, and won't risk injury in the Gym.
Powerlifters put it all on the line, and except that training injuries are part of the sport.
Bottom line: A bench shirt can be a great training tool, and will help increase your raw bench as well as your shirted bench, and can help increase muscle thickness and tendon/joint strength as well.
I'm living proof - http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8503uwx&s=1 From November 11th 2007, at 6'6" 317 and 45 years of age.
 
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