Please allow me to chip in my few cents lol. All the points made in this post are VALID - but like most things in life,it all depends what perspective you are looking at it from. I agree with `gladiator`too where he says that we dont need to be 100 percent bang on the button to be big or grow and that he doesnt take it so seriously that his life depends on it.
On the other hand, this point of view may sound arrogant or downright abnoxious to the `pro bodybuilder`whos life pretty much DOES DEPEND on it from a competition point of view and potential earnings etc for being one of the best in his /her class. So u see there are many points of view to bodybuilding.
Ive come across people in my circle who think bodybuilding on the upper echelons of the sport i.e., pro competition level is extremely `UNHEALTHY`due to the number of drugs that are or need to be taken to have any chance of winning pro comps for the sake of a few mins of on stage glory.
When i first had a taste for gear was away back when i was 20 years old. I didnt train, i didnt eat right, i didnt do much excercise other than screwing women,i didnt even listen to folk who would say u dont need gear, just eat right and train. BUT guess what ? i did do it and was my first taste of dbol, and that one drug alone gave me the urge to train to this day. I also dont expect to build a bodybuilders `pro` physique but at least im in the gym unlike some of our obese bros and sisters who wouldnt know a dumbell if it hit them sqaure on the face. Some of us have a better grasp of the finer points of bodybuilding,some dont - but at least ALL OF US are in the gym and doing something that your average couch potato WOULDNT.
I actuallt respect the points gladiator expressed in this post, direct and most of all HONEST.
Most of all i respect the fact that u can come on here and pretty much ask any question you like, and actually have the good people here reply to what you want to know about. The last forum i was on i was a member for 9 years, until some new smart ass members joined and thought it was a good idea to insult you first and then answer - needless to say i didnt stay there. Keep it up guys EF is a fab place to be.