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st8grad said:
Not to go against Nelson's product, because I'm sure it is better - and Unleashed is awesome - but KAL Herburetic works pretty well too. It's a little cheaper is why I mentioned it. I don't know if you can double the dose of Herburetic, but you can with Definition.

Herburetic isn't bad, but it's less complete than DEFINITION and lower dosed on the ingredients that they share. 90 caps cost around $12 whereas DEFINITION is $29 for 200 caps so the price is right about the same.

I provided a link for DEFINITION in the 5th post.
 
I just ordered Definition and its on the way, so i hope it works as regular dandelion root didnt work for me. Im going to take a double dose.
 
The potatoes and rice (if white) will add a small amount to the water retention. The best diet contains NOTHING WHITE. Potatoes, sugar, rice, etc.

The glycemic index on a potato is higher than table sugar. High gly index foods adds water retention.

I'm not saying go low carb - I am saying make sure you don't overdue the carbs and only healthy carbs.

Watching carbs can EASILY cut 10lbs of water weight in a week.
 
Nelson Montana said:
The Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is going to make the bloating worse. A little adexx should help but it won't help the bloat from the Deca because it's cause by progesterone.

This can only help. Read: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=919&cat=0&page=1


have you used this personally? im running de.ca/en.th/pr.op in a few weeks and dont want to get too bloated. ive used AIFM and thought it worked well.
 
off_safety said:
have you used this personally? im running de.ca/en.th/pr.op in a few weeks and dont want to get too bloated. ive used AIFM and thought it worked well.

Yes, I've used all sorts of ingredients and these worked best which is the reason I designed it. Definitely cuts down on the water you hold, as long as you drink enough water. Natural diuretics only stimulate urination, and secretion of sodium so water must be taken in. This also makes it safe.
 
A-dex is a must if you are concerned about bloating due to aromatization. Unfortunately cardio isn't going to make that big of a difference, at least it never has for me. As long as your diet is pretty clean and not full of sugars and fat you should be good as far as not putting on a bunch of fat.
 
Alright bro's , so basically the bottomline is we all know that while on cycle with most AS, we will expect some watar retention , now the key is to keep it the lowest possible with clean diet, high in good carbs, high in proteins , low in fats, and definitely high in calories if looking for bulk. drinking plenty of fluids, and using a-dex or an anti aromatase. What do you bro's think about adding some nolvadex 10-20 mg as I'm in my 4th week into 500sust/week and 400deca/week. will the nolva help out with the excess bloat. I've had it on hand since the beginning, so would you bro's recommend I should start now.?? thanx
 
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