<Wiping egg off face> <Putting on asbestos underwear>
Wyst: You are correct, that comment was aimed at those with no knowledge of Tren. Because tren has become the trendy 'designer' AAS of the newbie, I didn't want anyone to underestimate its androgenic properties.
Snow White: I agree with you 100%, I just did a lousy job of communicating it. To answer your question though, yes, it is both. It's also personal and individual, so for you it's one thing, for me it's something else. And for the largest segment of our population, curves, sparse body hair, softer higher voices, and a smaller bone structure is associated with femininity. It may be a generalization, but statistically it is the mean. That was why I said the "most women" and "most of those that want to keep their femininity" statements. It was <very poorly> supposed to be addressed to the 'statistically average' female that is looking for a 'little help.'
{I don't know about you, but to my wife and I, it seems as if more and more 'casual' fitness types are inquiring about steroids in the past two years.} It is as if they are looking for a magic pill to melt fat and become cut. I certainly wouldn't put tren in that category.
BTW: Snow, we liked the article you did for UG waaaaay back when.... Any chance that type of thing will get started again? Good Stuff!!!
WarLobo: Funny you mention the Sust thing, I do believe I remember that thread. The bad part is that test had been prescribed for women for years. But just recently it has been rediscovered and become a somewhat 'mainstream' medicine. Same as AAS for AIDS and patients with muscle wasting diseases and conditions.
Also I agree about Tren augmenting dense muscle on women! If one is okay with the sides, I'm sure she will find tren to be highly effective. There is a group of six women that we work and all have tried tren. [Why tren? Because it was easy to get, of course!]
Two of them still use it and deca for short cycles three times a year. They are particularly gifted genetically and have few sides. They both say the mental and hair sides are worse with tren than anything else though. Not sure if the mental thing is, ....err...well, mental, (talk about a loss for words) but since they know their stuff, I imagine there is something to it.
BE
Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 
From what I understamnd it's 3x more andro than deca, but from what I've read in profiles, it's basically the same. Would 1/4 of an amp (appx 16mg) be OK?? 
