Want to try Clen. Need all the info i can get.

[majutsu]

I do not beleive on jumping on the band wagon of all stimulants, but i also do not see the need to instil fear in all those who desire to use them RESPONSIBLY!

A far bigger problem is that the average person (male or female) using a drug cannot tell you the 5 most common significant medically proven side effects of that drug or how it works in layman's terms. Therefore, they must be using drugs without knowing the pros and cons, in other words, making completely irrational and baseless decisions.

Instilling fear or respect is apparently not easily done. So I wouldn't worry about going to far on the side of caution on a public internet board populated largely by bozos.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

A far bigger problem is that the average person (male or female) using a drug cannot tell you the 5 most common significant medically proven side effects of that drug or how it works in layman's terms. Therefore, they must be using drugs without knowing the pros and cons, in other words, making completely irrational and baseless decisions.

Instilling fear or respect is apparently not easily done. So I wouldn't worry about going to far on the side of caution on a public internet board populated largely by bozos.

Good point. Most people take something because their gym partner, friend, or boyfriend told them about it. They don't take time or responsibility for doing their OWN research.

Additionally, just because your buddy who took XYZ got no sides and no ill-effects does NOT mean YOU will not gets sides or ill-effects. What is good for the goose is NOT always good for the gander!

 

[*MissFit*]

Exactly.. which goes backt o the point EDUCATE urself.. before you put anything in your body

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Exactly.. which goes backt o the point EDUCATE urself.. before you put anything in your body

But most people are impatient and immature. They would rather have someone else research and tell them about it. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions.

Same reason why people blame work, school, genetics, willpower, parents, metabolism, etc on their inability to reach their goals. We ALL have our obstacles. How you choose to deal with them will define you.

 

[jaded]

We ALL have our obstacles. How you choose to deal with them will define you.

great, and very true, words.

 

[xenasky]

Those are very good points but no matter how much education a person gets, it still doesn't kill the curiosity for some. Just like Cig's. You can preach all day but people still smoke and start smoking.
Almost everyone has used something to help them reach their goal at one time or another...have it be energy booster drinks or steroids.
As a Health Promotion graduate...I know, ironic, I have taken behavioral science and know that just preaching and the "scare" technique does not work alone. They do help though. Each persons body reacts different so it is hard to diagnose every drug for every person. Any time you take any substance, being new or not, is taking a risk. Some people are willing to take that risk to get a jump to their goal... and I think the best thing to do would be give good, true and informed advice and not lean toward degrading other's because you might not know the entire situation or how "their" body handles thing and your information gets unheard because of your attitude.
You can just give your advice and an friendly opinion. Snide remarks about others being bozos about wanting to try stuff with out any info or because people they trust told them about it and probably did research themselves but you don't know isn't that intelligent either. It is specially hard when so many people have tried different stuff, even Arnold , and we see those results more.
I guess that is just my opinion.

 

[roidpuple]

ya i agree myslelf i have put up some posts after already doing research I wanted to see if any one else new more about it and i got complantes for not doing research myslef.... instead of them giving a thought, like you requested you get a ....... that is a stupid question... or how many times have i heard this question.... the site is to learn more..it is for learning if you dont like the question you should just not answer and leave it to more helpful people....

 

[xenasky]

Well said.