Want to try Clen. Need all the info i can get.

[roidpuple]

i am with daisy_girl all the way........it is important to eat more meals during the day small meals though every 3 hrs or so..... the meals if kept small are like logs on a fire.. you give just enough to keep it going the fire is your metabolism..... and it tricks your body ... if you starve your body it learns fast to store what ever fat it can get.. have you ever noticed the fat people that eat one or 2 meals aday..... there body is holding on to the fat for safety....because it is being starved all the time..... so what you have to do is trick your body.....let is have a little food all through out the day so it becomes less likely to hold on the fat it begins to trust it ..... then have a cheat day on Sunday.....eat what ever you want ..this will really tell your body no to worry you are not starving it..... and one more thing dont eat at least 3hr before bed.. if you are dieing before bed try some beef jerky.. the no fat kind it is not filling but might get you past the attack..... i hope this kinda paints a picture for you the girls are telling you right......and you have have heard of Albuterol it is about the same thing asthma med...and has the same side effects.......

 

[Dakotah]

Here is a question for ya - how long does side effects last? for clen i mean. and what are the side effects? i see all the other normal questions but just wondered.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Here is a question for ya - how long does side effects last? for clen i mean. and what are the side effects? i see all the other normal questions but just wondered.

Possible side effects while taking...... headaches, nausea, shakes, insomnia, jitters, sweating, extreme thirst, anxiety, I had inability to focus (think, serious ADHD!), jumpiness, etc........

They will occur until your body develops a tolerance to that dose. Then they slowly go away over a few days or so. You increase the dose until the sides are intolerable. Then back down slightly.

 

[Dakotah]

thanks daisy

very helpful

 

[Daisy_Girl]

bump

 

[Nichole]

I was happy to find this thread as well...in fact...I signed on to ask a similar question myself.

I know how to properly care for my diet and training. I used to make my living as a personal trainer, and my boyfriend is a trainer himself who has been bodybuilding and competing for over 11 years now.

HOWEVER.......there is one question he cannot answer for me, and no one here has addressed it yet either.

CAN YOU TAKE CLENBUTEROL WHILE TAKING BIRTH CONTROL???

Or rather...is it SAFE to take clen while taking birth control pills?

 

[majutsu]

Wend insisted that I post here. All that has been said about clen is true, especially Daisy's ideas about its applicability to the original poster. Diet and rigorous training is the only likely success here.

More importantly clen is very dangerous to the heart, causing heart muscle death, similar to that experienced by a heart attack, but without the vessel blockage.

Clen is a beta-agonist. Beta receptors are in skeletal muscle (yea!), fat (yea!), lungs (keeps airways open and why clen is used in asthma), and the heart (uh-oh ). Beta-antagonist (the opposite of clen) are used after heart attacks and heart surgery to prolong life and protect the heart. Blocking the beta receptors in the heart is therefore likely to result in heart death, and it does. This problem would be compound by stimulants, "crystal", diet pills, cocaine or abuse of over the counter cold-preps. These interactions have caused some bodybuilding sudden deaths.

Here is the scientific reference from the 2004 article with the punchline in bold. Numerous other older papers in humans exists, so clen's toxicity is well shown. They are using rats now so they can pry into the mechanism of clen's "heart attacks" to learn more about the etiology of heart disease in general. This topic is covered in a big thread on the anabolic board too.

J Appl Physiol. 2004 Dec 10; [Epub ahead of print] "{beta}2-Adrenergic receptor stimulation in vivo induces apoptosis in the rat heart and soleus muscle."Burniston JG, Tan LB, Goldspink DF. Research Institute for Sports and Exercise Sciences, Liverpool John Moores University, Liverpool, United Kingdom.

High doses of the beta2-adrenergic receptor (AR) agonist, clenbuterol, can induce necrotic myocyte death in the heart

Please be careful. It might be worth it if clen worked better I'm all for leaving a good-looking corpse, but make sure it's actually good-looking, right?

If you are hell-bent on using drugs, I would start with a good ECA stack, of great proven benefit. I would recommend anavar as a safer, more effective venture into scheduled drugs when you are ready. Great fat burning, muscle leaning, few sides and well-tolerated in women. Possibly add t3 and HGH as you become significantly advanced. That's all the drugs a hard-working woman should need to reach her potential.

Good luck.

(p.s. Daisy, Wend says congrats on married life. Have fun and enjoy the ride.)

 

[Daisy_Girl]

HOWEVER.......there is one question he cannot answer for me, and no one here has addressed it yet either.

CAN YOU TAKE CLENBUTEROL WHILE TAKING BIRTH CONTROL???

Or rather...is it SAFE to take clen while taking birth control pills?

Actually, the original poster of this thread asked the same question. I addressed it in post #2. Re-read this whole thread.

 

[wend]

Well, I thank you, Maj, for taking the time to share your medical expertise here in hopes of helping the ladies safeguard their health. Of course, what they choose to do with that information is up to them. Hopefully, most of them will care more about their health than their appearance, though I'm afraid that's not usually the custom.

 

[Nichole]

Actually, the original poster of this thread asked the same question. I addressed it in post #2. Re-read this whole thread.

Sorry about that...I skipped right over that part.