UN 'Soldiers' Still Having Sex With Starving Children For Food/Money

[EnderJE]

Hmm, that's almost as disgusting when the US military turned Saigon into the biggest brothel in the world.

Ssssh! You're ruining the neo-con's point.

 

[AristotleBC]

You call me a hater just for stating the obvious truth?

What is next locking up anyone suspected of having an opinion contrary to the US government's?

Your extensively slanted arguing against all things American in every post I've seen is indicative of dislike for America; otherwise it's unlikely you'd bother, or you would have more mixed opinions. If I'm wrong, do I get my green karma back?

 

[Tiervexx]

Max hates America why?

No good reason.

So turning Saigon into the biggest brothel in the world is not a good reason?



I don't know if that is true or not, but if it is you would have to have something seriously wrong with you to not hold an issue with American foreign policy. And even if it isn't true, we are not exactly saints when dealing with other countries.

Furthermore, I don't understand how anyone could hate or love a country. You can like or dislike certain actions taken by a government, or you can hate or like certain individualis within a country, but the country is not a seperate entity of itself that can be hated or loved.

 

[MAX 300]

Well according to aristotlebc, having an issue with US foreign policy = America hating. It's a tired and old line of argument that doesn't work, but what is much more amusing is that he forgot to tag the "I disapprove" button when he sent me his karma message - which resulted in me getting green karma + his flaming accusation that I bitch about America in every post.

I guess you had to see it.

 

[AristotleBC]

No, I gave you green karma on purpose big fella, hence my "get my green back" comment.

You're wrong again.

And the point is, to focus on "all the bad" that America has ever done is simply useless, foolish, pointless, whiny, trendy, yadda yadda yadda.


See, it's a backwards way of reasoning:


You don't like America, so you try and elucidate the bad about America's foreign policy, rather than studying America's foreign policy, and then deciding that you dislike America.

Because if you had any desire for fairness, you'd quit nitpicking about "brothels in Saigon" and take the entirety of America's foreign policy into account, which has been great for the world, great for your country, and quite principled throughout. Moreso than any other superpower in history in fact.

 

[MAX 300]

The current administration's foreign policy has not been great throughout at all, it has made the world a much more dangerous place.

Clinton's foreign policy approach was far from weak, but neither was it uncompromisingly unilateralists like GW Bush's. Not even the older Bush pursued such an aggressive, unilateralist and idiotic foreign policy.

The close association of my government with your goverment is the problem for my country, only now. Because Bush's foreign policy is so bad. It wasn't a problem under Clinton.

The point about brothels in Saigon. The US military has a long history of sexual exploitation and abuse of women outside of the US. Just visit Viet Nam, Thailand, Philippines and Japan to get a taste of it. If you can't accept that or put my mentioning of it down as anti-Americanism then you have a problem with denial.

It's easy just painting anyone who criticizes your goverment as anti-American, that doesn't make it accurate.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

lol i get this all the time. you say something about a policy, outlook, perspective - whatever - of the USA's that you dont like, and bam! you hate the USA.

all you pointy headed bastards that keep doing this - stop. it IS possible to say something bad about a particular entity and not hate that entity as a whole, you do realise. it is possible.

the USA in general, imo, has some very self serving, invasive, oppressive foreign policy. really. no bullshit. it does.

but i guess you cant be in the fishbowl in order to see it.

oh well

 

[jerseyart]

LMAO@ Max having the aduacity to lecture on human rights abuses while sporting an Australian flag.

Some peoples sense of irony is nonexistent.

Next lets have someone from Britian lecture on the human rights of men living in third world countries

 

[V-Machine]

LMAO@ Max having the aduacity to lecture on human rights abuses while sporting an Australian flag.

Some peoples sense of irony is nonexistent.

Next lets have someone from Britian lecture on the human rights of men living in third world countries

I tried to give you k for this........but I need to spread it around.

However, I do believe Max made an excellent point. Just because he is Australian doesnt mean you can hold him responsible for what australians did in the past. Oh and he might also be native to Oz........not one of the white invaders.

 

[AristotleBC]

lol i get this all the time. you say something about a policy, outlook, perspective - whatever - of the USA's that you dont like, and bam! you hate the USA.

all you pointy headed bastards that keep doing this - stop. it IS possible to say something bad about a particular entity and not hate that entity as a whole, you do realise. it is possible.

the USA in general, imo, has some very self serving, invasive, oppressive foreign policy. really. no bullshit. it does.

but i guess you cant be in the fishbowl in order to see it.

oh well

It's not disagreeing with American foreign policy that's the problem, it's when talking about world events, the zeroing in on American foreign policy specifically, and even more specifically, every bad little aspect that can be conjured up...it's not even contextually accurate. It's like discussing WWII but the only things ever brought up are how Britain bombed civlians "here" "here" and "here." "Or the one time this British soldier raped a french girl here." It takes isolated incidents out of the entirety of the situation and is a little dishonest as such.

For example, P0ink is talking about abuses going on now, and you're talking about ones that occurred 35 or so years ago. What's more, if those abuses were occurring now a shitstorm would reign down on the American soldiers.

If there was even the feigned attempt at objectivity by some of you here than no one would have a need to use the term "America hater." But what other possibility is there when the only thing you focus upon in foreign policy debates is how America did it wrong this time too.