Turinabol+ Anavar ULTIMATE STACK!

[Ross]

I have run Oral-Turinabol by ITSELF for a duration of 7 weeks at 40-60mgs and gained almost 15lbs, with a mild but appreciable strength increase, and INSANE vascularity--even moreso than var--which I have also run solo. I am currently STACKING the TWO.....

TBOL increases LIBIDO and APPETITIE, whereas VAR DECREASES BOTH. Ergo, TBOL dose is Maintained higher than the VAR dose throughout the cycle to counteract these sides.

I am currently running a LOW dose TBOL/VAR STACK: I will NOT be increasing calories until week 4, as this is not a SUPER BULK. I am currrently 200lbs, 9% BF, and I want to be at 200-205, 5%BF. Looking to get into semi-contest shape, although i will not be competeing.

Week1: VAR 20mgs/TBOL 30mgs ***Extremely LOW dose to ASSESS contraindications***
Week2: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 40mgs *VAR Never EXCEEDS 30mgs, due to it's negative affect on LIBIDO.
Week3: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week4: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week5: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 60mgs
Week6: VAR 30mgs/TBOL 50mgs
Week7: VAR 30mgs
Week8: VAR 30mgs


The purpose of VAR in this cycle is strictly for Strength, hardness, and vascularity. Any contribution that VAR makes to my LBM gains will be accepted, but not expected. TBOL is the BASE of the stack. It increases Libido, Appetite, mood, and FREE test levels. (kind of like taking an oral form of test that doesn't aromatize or alpha-5 reduce!) It is also teh ANABOLIC component--it is the muscle builder. However, I also expect it to produce remarkable synergy with the VAR, producing a VERY dense, lean, shredded look.
I ONLY USE Tribestan Tribulus Terrestris extract (or TRIBEX) and A POTENT Eurycoma Longfolia(Tongkat ALi) Extract for PCT and I have reovered SWIFTLY BOTH times. These are both NON-Aromatizing steroids, one reason why HPTA function can be mostly maintained even during cycle.

PS, just starting posting here--though I am an active member on many other boards. Figured I would take the free Platinum membership week trial....

 

[Ross]

It should be used IN PLACE of Testosterone as a BASE for almost all cycles.

As a BASE compound, we are looking for simply an ANABOLIC component, coupled with a propensity to INCREASE sexual function, libido, and appetite, as to counteract the sides of having low natural test production whilst on cycle. Oral Turinabol also produces great synergy with any compound, as its chemical structure (Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) is merely a modified testosterone--with an inability to convert to either Estrogen or DHT.

Oral Turinabol also BINDS STRONGLY to SHBG(Sex Hormone Binding Globulin), DRASTICALLY increasing FREE testosterone in the body. (One single 40mg dose= 4.0 X increase) Both, women and men report increased libido. Both times I have used it, I was very sexually active. Furthermore, having the characteristic of binding to SHBG--like WINNY, turinabol also increases the EFFECIACY of OTHER STEROIDS BEING ADMINISTERED!

Tbol as a Base.....Trust me...Much swifter recovery than TEST and NO SIDES.

 

[nishnish]

sorry, but this is wrong bro.

you will not find a better base for any cycle than test. this has been proven time and time again over many years.

tbol is a great drug, but to say it should be the replacement for test as a cycle base is inaccurate at best; otherwise every pro and his brother would be doing so.

actually after reading yoru post more thoroughly (which i should have done at first LOL) i see your reasons for selecting it as a base. for those purposes i would say that it could work as a base compund very well.

however, for all-out mass building, test MUST be incorporated as a base for best results.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Ross: while in the free P{lat period, you should put up a large avatar and enter a custom title (non-plats get a much smaller ava and no title) if you care.

on Tbol, whats your opinion based on your research and experience on hairloss? fact that it increases free test should make it a hair killer, but anecdotally its not.

 

[Ross]

Ross: while in the free P{lat period, you should put up a large avatar and enter a custom title (non-plats get a much smaller ava and no title) if you care.

on Tbol, whats your opinion based on your research and experience on hairloss? fact that it increases free test should make it a hair killer, but anecdotally its not.

NONONO...

You see.....INCREASING TOTAL TEST PRODUCTION would increase AROMATIZATION to estrogen and Alpha-5 reduction to DHT. HOWEVER--we are NOT increasing total T production--ONLY INCREASING FREE test LEVELS--TEST that is ALREADY in our body, simply UN-USABLE in it's BOUND form.

Hairloss is NO concern.


AS FOR TBOL as a BASE rather than TEST,....
If you are looking for a MILD cycle with MUCH LOWER side effects and more PERMANENT gains--TBOL over tewst EVERYday ALL day...

 

[Güclü_oglan]

what do you mean by permanent gains

 

[Indy]

As most of you guys here know I am a huge fan of var and the great affects on how the muscle looks, however it's pretty common to stay away from multiple orals from a liver standpoint. Now I have read peoples posts on T-bol but have never tried it, nor investigated as of yet for that matter. I would assume since it's an oral it's 17-aa also and even though var is very mild compared to most orals and doesn't seem to mess with my liver value much, isn't running both of these together still looking for possible complications down the road ??? I would be interested if you are stacking these to post your blood test results as I do... like to see if it effects your liver much.

 

[Mavafanculo]

NONONO...
You see.....INCREASING TOTAL TEST PRODUCTION would increase AROMATIZATION to estrogen and Alpha-5 reduction to DHT. HOWEVER--we are NOT increasing total T production--ONLY INCREASING FREE test LEVELS--TEST that is ALREADY in our body, simply UN-USABLE in it's BOUND form.

Hairloss is NO concern.
...

I don't have any studies to cite, but my impression was that test bound by shbg was essentially biologically inactive FOR ALL PURPOSES, meaning no anabolism, not able to be aromatized, not able to be 5-alpha-reduced. wrapped in a condom as it were.

once you remove the condom (de-couple from shbg) and make it available for use, as FREE test, it will then take ALL its various pathways including producing DHT.

If thats not the case, I'd appreciate seeing some literature/studies/etc.

 

[Ross]

Free Testosterone is IMMEDIATELY available for anabolism, as it is already tissue saturated.

Excess testosterone is in ciculation, enabling it to MORE READILY convert to it's metabolites.


As for liver safety--Both are 17-AA so keeping the cycle at 8 weeks maximum is just precautionary. Although anavar should be able to be used to much longer durations. Use liver protectants as always.

 

[dali]

tbol is a fad, it will pass.

Test/Deca/dbol will never go away