Training For Reps...

[The Shadow]

Ok...contest events were finalized yesterday for my Nationals. Two of the events are for max reps in 60 seconds...how would you train for them?

Deadlift: 500 pound, max reps in 60 seconds
2" Thick Bar Clean and Press: 240 pound, max reps in 60 seconds

Would you focus on bringing up your 1RM strength and letting the numbers fall into place or would you work a little bit lighter and focus a bit more on reps?

I just finished reading an article by Louie Simmons that lead me to believe that I should still focus on my singles and heavy work and everything else would fall into place.
http://www.elitefitnesssystems.com/documents/repetition-method.htm

Either way...I plan to test myself with the full contest at 8 and 4-5 weeks out.

B True

Depends.....how many reps are you looking at..if ti is over 10 - def train for the reps and load up on creatine

 

[b fold the truth]

Thanks for the ideas. I am thinking about doing an all out set with 500 here either this week or next to see about where I am at.

Remember...I can do 5 reps then rest for a few seconds and get a few more...etc...till my 60 seconds is gone. I hope to get 10 though...

B True

 

[The Shadow]

hmmmmm...right at the breaking point imo - I know that you can train specifically for the ability to do higher reps....still though tume under tension should still be considered...5 reps on deads each burst would be how many seconds for you Clint?

 

[b fold the truth]

I'm not really for sure how long it will take me...maybe 15-20 seconds for 5 reps with 500 pounds...something like that.

B True

 

[The Shadow]

so - maybe 12-15 reps then????

I would start at say 480 and add 10-20 pounds at each session and try to keep the reps as high as possible...once you hit 520 - back back to around the 480 range and work up again....

 

[b fold the truth]

I would like to get 500 for 10 reps. I can use straps, belt, and a suit if I choose. I did a raw 650 the other day and felt that I had 665-675 in me...but who knows.

I plan to try some higher rep deads this week...but they always kill my spine a lot... Can't go too hard or too heavy on too many things at once....it is only just one event.

B True

 

[lemur]

I've done stuff like this a lot , with a ton of different coaches, with multiple different exercises, and none of them trained me even remotely similar. Some had me start at 1:30 and heavier weight and gradually even it out, some had me training for 1 rep max still, some had me do exactly what I was supposed to do in tryouts, and some had me train super light. There is absolutely no consensus.

There was only one thing they agreed on, and it was: set your goals high. if you want 500x10, don't train for 500x10. train for at least 520x12.

 

[b fold the truth]

The only thing that bothers me about all of these approaches is...

To build the deadlift...you don't need to be deadlifting very often...

B True

 

[Hannibal]

To build the deadlift...you don't need to be deadlifting very often...

Thats why I was thinking it would be a better idea to build endurance in the "muscle" and not in the movement. Go a little higher on reps on accessory work...concentrate on TIME for those sets. At least on one of your two lower body days....on the other I would stick to your normal rep range...the one that made you strong in the first place.

 

[b fold the truth]

Please elaborate Hannibal.

This is basically what I have been doing to increase my deadlift..

Box Squats
Pull Throughs
Reverse Hypers
Band Ham Curls
GM's

What do you suggest I go higher reps or for time on?

B True