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To those that talk smack about UG gear

needsize

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I've been seeing a lot of posts on different boards lately trashing the underground lab scene. Now with all the new so called labs popping up every day, its easy to see where it would be hard to trust some of them.
But for myself, other than my first cycle, UG labs is all that I have used, and my results have been satisfactory to say the least. I found a few pics to illustrate my point

This first pic was taken in Oct/01 after my first cycle, sust and dbol
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This one was taken almost a year later, after using exclusively spectro gear
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This last one was taken a year after the last pic, after a year on exclusively Quest gear
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Just makes me wonder what kind of gains I could have made in less than 2 years if UG gear didnt suck, like I keep reading.....
 
Agreed! If you've got a reliable source that speaks highly of UG gear.....then most of the time you should expect great results. Oh, Needsize, did you get my last email bro?
 
haha remind me to try to get some quest gear. but yea i agree with u on the fact that not all UG gear is bathtub products. It seems like only 9monthes ago i could name most of the UG labs on two hands but now there has to be over 30 i can think of just domestic..

It does however seem that recently its become more of a hit and miss when it comes to UG labs. It seems that some gear is all the rage only to find out in a week that they turned scammer or there gear it bunk. As of right now the only UG gear i use is proline and GTP. Once you find a type of UG gear you trust just stick with them.
 
THEEGAME2544 said:
Agreed! If you've got a reliable source that speaks highly of UG gear.....then most of the time you should expect great results. Oh, Needsize, did you get my last email bro?
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I did, just havent had much time online
 
You'll get no argument out of me especially with those pretty pink trunks in your third pic..:D
 
dammit, the trunks are tangerine orange...the digital video camera does some weird stuff to the colours
 
from the pics i can see that the UG gear you were using is fake....lol

nice trunks, they come in purple...jk bro....looking great as always, make sure to take some pics on the stage. we all wanna see your pose down, and make sure u take one when u get the hardware too for 1st place :-)
 
Does anyone remember pharmacutical International, UG lab distributed out of england a number of years back? They had the best cyp, deca, winny, and d-bol that me or any of my bros have ever used. I have never used quest, but only have heard that it rocks.:)
 
It would be interesting to see how UG Labs ranked in an honest comparision. (especially in regards to the best EQ)

I have not tried Quest yet.

P.S. needsize... your nipples are assymetrical.






























(just teasing bro)
 
At one point this at the beginning of the year I picked up 50icns and ran those till they were out. When I ran out, I switched back to quest enth and I honestly couldnt tell a difference. Kinda pissed me off that I spent so much on icns
 
with ICN having fakes made in their own facility, and not to mention the underdosed crap...why wouldnt anyone try a good UG lab?
 
needsize, how much did you gain from the first photo Oct/01 to the second one a year later? It seems like you made a big jump from the 2nd year to the 3rd year. You look awsome... The way you look is what I am shooting for.
 
liftsiron said:
Does anyone remember pharmacutical International, UG lab distributed out of england a number of years back?
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Sure do Bro and you are showing your age LOL

Wrongun!
 
The main Problem with UG lab gear is it is so har on the hairline LOL

Joke Needsive respect to what you have achieved

Peace

Wrongun!
 
Well we can certainly see the particular UG gear you've been using has worked well for you... beyond that... we'll all make our own conclusions i suppose.

My take:
Impossible to group all UG gear together like that... there are some companies with better track records than others... but ultimately you can never be completely sure. Uncertainty is the price you pay for a more cost effective product.
 
I think it's an ego thing. A guy will ridicule someone for using UG gear, then brag about how he can get pharm. grade for the same price of your UG gear. If that doesn't work he'll claim UG gear is dirty or bunk. Black label and QV worked just fine for me.
 
geoffgarst said:
UG Gear is great when you have a reliable source, but how in the world do you know if it is good or not?
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You get a lab test.
 
i am going to try to find some UG anavar.....i like QV stuff so i will stick with that and it is cheap and right close to where i live...from what i have read here on EF, that one UG lab (IP)gives a bad vibe and every one thinks all UG gear is shity..
 
I'm done with UG labs. I've been screwed in the past enough times. I use Euro or Mexican gear. I get my stuff cheap enough that I don't feel like I have to risk using UG gear.
 
you go with the labs that have the best track records
 
Damn! Nice job Needsize. That's impressive. You just absolutely blew up like a motherfucker in that 3rd pic. If you don't mind me asking, can you tell us what your cycle consisted of in that last pic?
 
thats the cycle I'm running right now to get ready for the show, the first 3 months was Quest EQ, enth, and peru tech dbol, that was the bulking part. For the contest diet, I'm running quest masteron, EQ, anavar, and prop
 
Juice Authority said:


You get a lab test.
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After you've bought the UG gear and ran a lab test you could get human grade for close to the same price... if not less.

The best you can do is go with the labs that have a good track record... there have been bad batches from even good companies though. Again- you're dealing with the uncertainty.
 
the thing that sells me on UG stuff is that there is no fakes, especially if youa re dealing with legitimate reps. There is as much fake human grade shit floating around as there is real. Christ, I've seen fakes with laser etching on the amps, at least I know I'm getting what I'm buying
 
needsize said:
thats the cycle I'm running right now to get ready for the show, the first 3 months was Quest EQ, enth, and peru tech dbol, that was the bulking part. For the contest diet, I'm running quest masteron, EQ, anavar, and prop
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That's a nice combination of goodies. Good luck on your show man. I'm sure that you'll do well. You can certainly tell that you've been doing your homework. Let us know how it turns out.
 
Lift Chief said:
Well we can certainly see the particular UG gear you've been using has worked well for you... beyond that... we'll all make our own conclusions i suppose.

My take:
Impossible to group all UG gear together like that... there are some companies with better track records than others... but ultimately you can never be completely sure. Uncertainty is the price you pay for a more cost effective product.
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good point..some are better than others and if you get a brand that is accurately dosed..it is just as potent as human grade.
I personally used tons and tons of Mex Vet Stuff and got tired of lack luster results and wasted $, have been burnt with fake euro stuff..normas, susts, primos, paras-in 1996,yellow tops etc.
Black market gear is just that black market..just cause it looks like euro doesn't mean it can't be counterfeited.
I personally use 100% UG gear..MexiPharm and get awesome results from it.
But that does not mean all UG bottles coming out of the UG sites are good...whether it's Mexipharm, Quest BL, Proline, Redstar, etc.
But it's a better gamble on the UG than MEX VET or IP and sometimes Euro....
 
You need to find the right ug labs to purchase from cause some are trash...
 
You spent a lot of money on ICNs??? You must have a shitty source then. I got them and still can get them $6 a pop in any quantity and if I go over 50 or 100, then they go down to $5 and $4 an amp.

I have NEVER seen a UG charge less than $50 for a 10 ml bottle at 250 mg/ml. That's $5 per 250 mg. I can get domestic Omnadren 250's for $5 an amp!

Where is the cost savings of going with a UG lab in my scenario? Is your UG lab giving you free gear? The best price you will find for 250 mg of Test (in any form) is about $4 - $6.
 
pyrros dimas said:
You spent a lot of money on ICNs??? You must have a shitty source then. I got them and still can get them $6 a pop in any quantity and if I go over 50 or 100, then they go down to $5 and $4 an amp.

I have NEVER seen a UG charge less than $50 for a 10 ml bottle at 250 mg/ml. That's $5 per 250 mg. I can get domestic Omnadren 250's for $5 an amp!

Where is the cost savings of going with a UG lab in my scenario? Is your UG lab giving you free gear? The best price you will find for 250 mg of Test (in any form) is about $4 - $6.
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I bought my icns from overseas, with western union fees it worked out to $11 an amp, dont forget the canadian conversion. But the UG stuff that I use runs between 70-85 per 10cc bottle, depending on quantity purchased, which works out to about $4 a shot less. When you are running as much gear I as I, that adds up to a lot. Not to mention the pain in the ass of going international, AND, the fact that there are tons of fake ICNs going around but NO fake Quest
 
needsize said:


I bought my icns from overseas, with western union fees it worked out to $11 an amp, dont forget the canadian conversion. But the UG stuff that I use runs between 70-85 per 10cc bottle, depending on quantity purchased, which works out to about $4 a shot less. When you are running as much gear I as I, that adds up to a lot. Not to mention the pain in the ass of going international, AND, the fact that there are tons of fake ICNs going around but NO fake Quest
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$4 should be the average price per ml for UG test, I pay close to that at $3.75 a ml for MP Tests. An added plus for UG gear is that they are domestic vs international...try finding ICN's for less that are $14 domestic-not in qty either. International is give and take..you lose a portion of your order and the price just went up per amp...plus Johnny Law may show up at your door.

Compare that to:
UG Deca and EQ 200mgs/ml which usually runs $6.50-8.00 a ml and UG Trenbelone Acetate which runs $5-$7 per ml.
 
You bring up some good points needsize. I guess when you are using gear like you are, then a 30% - 35% price differential means a lot when you are talking the high dollar amount you are spending.
 
Texas Ranger, I kept about 20lbs from that first cycle. Before I started it I was about 185lbs at 7% bf.

JasonStrong, if you mean my contest cycle, here it is
Quest masteron 75mg ed
Quest anavar 40mg ed
Quest prop 100mg ed
Quest EQ 600mg week
 
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