To all the younger lifters we have here. It is good you come here to find out about pushing iron. Lately there just are a few who are so worried about getting big right now. It takes time! There have been a few recently who dont even know what they are doing yet(some 15 and 16 year olds) who are trying to find out about gear. Listen I have nothing against gear, and I am not saying that I would never use it(I havent yet) I am just saying that before you would use gear you should let your body achieve its full potential without it and I dont believe I have yet and I am almost 30. If you start using gear before you have put in a good many years in the gym working on what you were naturally given you will never be able to reach the potential you could using gear. There is no hurry young ones.