The Very BEST PCT for 2010 -- Right Here

[Nelson Montana]

So pretty much nolva and clomid are outdated and HCGenerate, etc are their new and better replacements?
I'm just a bit skeptical since this site advertises the company which makes these products (HCGenerate, etc).

The site advertises lots of stuff that doesn't get big recommendations and there are always recommendations of stuff the site does not sell. The reason UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE et al are recommended is because they work. ANd because they don;t advertise heavily, a lot of people don;t know about it. That's what makes EF a great place to hang around. It's on the cutting edge of information on supps, anabolics, peptides and pretty much everything else.

 

[Roidthelobster]

The site advertises lots of stuff that doesn't get big recommendations and there are always recommendations of stuff the site does not sell. The reason UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE et al are recommended is because they work. ANd because they don;t advertise heavily, a lot of people don;t know about it. That's what makes EF a great place to hang around. It's on the cutting edge of information on supps, anabolics, peptides and pretty much everything else.

Yeh I enjoy reading through the forums, alot of quality information from people who have been there done that. So what would a general PCT look like using Unleashed, HCGenerate, etc?
Or would you have to customise it depending on what you ran and the duration of the cycle?

another thing, the EF email today was about 'Why you need Nolva in your PCT'. I am a bit confused.

 

[burningman]

This is what I've gathered from this thread on PCT.

Step 1: Use HCGenerate while on cycle
Step 2: Use HCG or HMB while on cycle
Step 3: Use Proviron and/or unleashed while on cycle
Step 4: Use Aromasin or Arimidex while on cycle if estrogen sides get out of hand
Step 5: Use Post Cycle for PCT
Step 6: Use Forma Stanzol for PCT

I've never used steriods before and Im glad I came to this thread before I start.
Im 34 years old currently, 5'5", 140lbs, 15%bf.
I've been lifting for 20 years but stopped lifting heavy for about a year now and started MMA.
Still hitting the weights about twice a week, doing alot of running, skipping bagwork, etc.
I'm preparing for my first mma bout sometime in 2012.

Im going to start my first cycle soon and need help regarding dosage, cycle length, pct, etc.
I've noticed that I've slowed down compared to just a few years ago, endurance and recovery also deteriorated.

My goals are:
1) Gain endurance and speed up recovery from MMA training
2) Strength gain
3) Build and keep a little muscle
4) Get lean and look good

This is what my cycle and PCT look like. Please critique.

Week 1 - 10 Testosterone Propionate 100mg EOD
Week 5 - 10 Anavar 50mg ED

Week 1 - 10 HCGenerate 5 Caps a day
Week 2 - 10 HCG 250iu twice a week
Week 1 - 10 Arimidex 0.25 ED or Aromasin(what dose?) (if needed)
Week 1 - 14 Forged Liver Support
Week 1 - 14 Unleashed Just for fun
Week 1 - 14 Need to slin Just for fun

PCT
Week 11 - 14 Forged Post Cycle
Week 11 - 14 HCGenerate 10 Caps a day
Week 11 - 14 Forma Stanzol 9 pumps twice a day
Week 11 - 14 Nolvadex 20/20/10/10


Should I use Forma Stanzol during cycle as well?
I also read that using any testosterone preparation while in recovery will inhibit natural test production.
So should i go with Forged Post Cycle and/or HCGenerate while on PCT or omit it completely?

I'd appreciate any helpful feedback. Thanks!

 

[Nelson Montana]

There are variations and everyone has their own preferences. Some people find Nolva useful. I do not. Anti's are dependant of one's suseptability to gyno.

Personally, I think HCGen and Forma are best suited while on, (along with N2GUARD).

UNLEASHED can be on and off and POST CYCLE with UNLEASHED for PCT.

Follow with BRIDGE until the next cycle.

 

[burningman]

How does this look?

Cycle:
Week 1 - 10 testosterone Propionate 100mg EOD
Week 5 - 10 anavar 50mg ED

Cycle Support:
Week 5 - 10 hcg 250iu twice a week
Week 1 - 10 Arimidex 0.25 ED / Aromasin - As needed
Week 1 - 14 Liv52
Week 1 - 14 Forma Stanzol
Week 1 - 14 Universal Animal Flex


PCT
Week 7 - 14 HCGenerate
Week 11 - 14 Unleashed (1 bottle)
Week 11 - 14 Post Cycle (1 bottle)
Week 11 - 14 Nolvadex 20/20/10/10


BRIDGE

 

[-SD-]

Talk about expensive. Jeez the cost to stay big and healthy these days. Its like one cycle is $300

Yes jesus christ, what does all that PCT cost???

 

[mustang12]

Would running unleashed and post cycle at only 3 pills a day cut it for a
10week 150mg/eod of prop,
150mg/eod of npp?
Already have plenty clomid, nolva, cabergoline, and aromasin.
Planning on aromasin and caber 2weeks pre cycle all the way to last day of pct.
Any ideas? Thanks.

 

[Nelson Montana]

How does this look?

Cycle:
Week 1 - 10 testosterone Propionate 100mg EOD
Week 5 - 10 anavar 50mg ED

Cycle Support:
Week 5 - 10 hcg 250iu twice a week
Week 1 - 10 Arimidex 0.25 ED / Aromasin - As needed
Week 1 - 14 Liv52
Week 1 - 14 Forma Stanzol
Week 1 - 14 Universal Animal Flex


PCT
Week 7 - 14 HCGenerate
Week 11 - 14 Unleashed (1 bottle)
Week 11 - 14 Post Cycle (1 bottle)
Week 11 - 14 Nolvadex 20/20/10/10


BRIDGE

I'd leave out the nolva. Use 500 iu of HCG once a week. Use the forma for 12 weeks. Even if you need the dex, use it EOD.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes jesus christ, what does all that PCT cost???

UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE cost about a dollar a day.

 

[Ataturk]

How does this look, Am running a Test Cyponiate only: 400mg /week for 8 weeks:

Week 1 : One Test 400mg shot
Week 2 - Week 8 : One Test 400mg Shot + 20mg of Nolvadex Daily
After the end of the cycle: 3 shots of Pregnyl seperated with 5 days + Continue to use 20mg of Nolvadex for 4 weeks

- Am gonna start using natural test boosters in the 9th week
- Would using a DHT blocker provide any help in minimizing hair loss ?