The Needto Experiment...

[dabuffguy]

Whats your take on the real subject of the thread though. DHT for gyno control? Monsterdrol is a dht derivative. Lets ee if this baby can do what the other dht derivatives can do.

If he is trying to control gyno, I think a proven approach, (letro and nolva like he is doing) is the way to go.

The addition of the monsterdrol may go unnoticed in terms of gyno control with what he is taking.

To really prove monsterdrol has the same effect as masteron and proviron with estro-control, he would really need to be runnning it solo and have hormone panels taken every other day. Though, that is a stupid idea because he doesn't want it to fail and have bitch tits either, which is probably what would happen too.


I don't see monsterdrol adding to the problem at all, but i wouldn't bank on it positively helping to the point of using it as a gyno control.

guess what I am saying is, I wouldn't use methenolone, drostanolone or methyldrostanolone for gyno control.

In conjuction with letro and nolva, sure it may have added benefit but it is impossible to know at what level and effectiveness it realy has unless use by itself and with blood tests.

 

[needtogetaas]

If he is trying to control gyno, I think a proven approach, (letro and nolva like he is doing) is the way to go.

The addition of the monsterdrol may go unnoticed in terms of gyno control with what he is taking.

To really prove monsterdrol has the same effect as masteron and proviron with estro-control, he would really need to be runnning it solo and have hormone panels taken every other day. Though, that is a stupid idea because he doesn't want it to fail and have bitch tits either, which is probably what would happen too.


I don't see monsterdrol adding to the problem at all, but i wouldn't bank on it positively helping to the point of using it as a gyno control.

guess what I am saying is, I wouldn't use methenolone, drostanolone or methyldrostanolone for gyno control.

In conjuction with letro and nolva, sure it may have added benefit but it is impossible to know at what level and effectiveness it realy has unless use by itself and with blood tests.

maaaaa shut up. Anyway I have been working with him. He has been taking the letro and nolva for a bit now. Lumps gone down but I feel dht can be used as a effective additive to the things he is on now.

I will have to get pp in here later this week. He is big on dht for gyno and I bet he could really touch up on the subject.

 

[needtogetaas]

DHT has been used in several case reports and controlled trials to successfully treat gynecomastia

 

[dabuffguy]

DHT has been used in several case reports and controlled trials to successfully treat gynecomastia

masteron was originally used for breast cancer treatment and breast tissue reduction. Guess what else was? Yup, nolva and letro. So, indeed your theory has ground. The addition of the methyl group for oral availability does alter the drugs behavior, so that was where my doubt was given the lack of clinical studies on the superdrol compound.

 

[needtogetaas]

lowered DHT levels resulting from endogenous testosterone suppression may contribute to gyno. He is having a rebound effect after a cycle so this could also be a factor and another reason for using the drol.
Studies have shown that DHT can actually block estrogen from binding to the estrogen receptor in mammary tissue. DHT also is an aromatase inhibitor. Even more interesting is the fact that transdermal DHT cream has been used successfully to treat gyno .


It may be that the estrogen/DHT ratio is a factor in rebound estro. I mean did you know that gyno is occasionally reported as a side effect of finasteride treatment even though estrogen levels in these patients are typically normal. Why? It would seem to me that not only the test to estrogen ratio is a factor at play during estrogen rebound after a cycle.

I think that dht to estrogen ratio also is a factor.

 

[needtogetaas]

masteron was originally used for breast cancer treatment and breast tissue reduction. Guess what else was? Yup, nolva and letro. So, indeed your theory has ground. The addition of the methyl group for oral availability does alter the drugs behavior, so that was where my doubt was given the lack of clinical studies on the superdrol compound.

Well of course bro.

 

[jock52]

Day 2....

Took 3 caps of Monsterdrol this morning along with some nice 30mg of Nolva. Mmmmmm...

 

[Just Add Muscle]

4-6 should be the dose range. Definitely start on the lower end of the spectrum though lol.

 

[jock52]

4-6 should be the dose range. Definitely start on the lower end of the spectrum though lol.

Yeah.... starting at the lower end indeed.

 

[DasWolf]

Please keep this thread updated. I have an issue with gyno and Im also waiting on my Letro and Nolva. AND....I just happen to have a bottle of Monsterdrol in my closet.