The need to go to failure ...

[Bulldog_10]

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The intensity will be high towards the last few reps bro ...

If you do, for example, incline dumbbell bench with a weight that you can do for 12reps ... do you even feel the first rep? I know that the first few reps don't even affect me. Just pointing that out to say that there is no intensity in the first few reps in a higher rep range training ... so how is it good for bb purposes? Again, if 12 is better than 3reps ... wouldn't 100 be better than 12reps?

-sk

Intensity is NOT a measure of "hardness" or whatever you're trying to say. Intensity is a measure of AVERAGE BAR WEIGHT.

 

[sk*]

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Intensity is NOT a measure of "hardness" or whatever you're trying to say. Intensity is a measure of AVERAGE BAR WEIGHT.

Bro, the whole point of the word intensity is that you have an "intense" workout, it isn't just the bar weight.

Intensity is the bar weight PLUS how many repetitions you do.

What I am trying to get at is that, it is possible to do a workout in 100rep range and have a very intense workout.

-sk

 

[Bulldog_10]

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Bro, the whole point of the word intensity is that you have an "intense" workout, it isn't just the bar weight.

Intensity is the bar weight PLUS how many repetitions you do.

What I am trying to get at is that, it is possible to do a workout in 100rep range and have a very intense workout.

-sk

Ugh...you have no idea what you're talking about. Intensity = average bar weight. Volume = reps x sets.

 

[SofaGeorge]

I mean, if variety were the key to growth, why are there so many continually successful DC, HST, and westside trainees? Generally the people that want to mix it up, are on a traditional split. Since many of these are ineffective or inefficient, they believe that their body has somehow adapted to it, and need to try something else. When in fact all they needed all along was a more productive training protocol.

Very valuable and underappreciated point!

Trivia to add to it: Arnold Swarzzenegger never changed his routine. He liked doing the same thing every time (despite what he may have said in some Wieder articles.) Hence, he always did the same routine... day in day out... year in year out. He still does basically the same routine today that he did in 1975. (He's dropped the volume and the amount of weight.)

What did he change... only the amount of weight he did and the number of reps. He always tried to do a little more... one more rep... 5 more pounds.

(Let me add to this - I shake up my routine constantly... but I've learned how to correctly incorporate variety. I don't have variety work against me.)

 

[sk*]

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Ugh...you have no idea what you're talking about. Intensity = average bar weight. Volume = reps x sets.

Let's say your bench for 12 reps is 100lbs (lol), would doing 5reps with 100lbs be any intense? I don't think so. You need to include the number of reps so you can call it intense or not.

-sk

 

[Bulldog_10]

What did he change... only the amount of weight he did and the number of reps. He always tried to do a little more... one more rep... 5 more pounds.

Exactly! I'm not saying change up your entire workout routine...just the intensity and volume.

 

[JollyRogers]

omg this thread is still going??? I just got back from the bar

 

[Bulldog_10]

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Let's say your bench for 12 reps is 100lbs (lol), would doing 5reps with 100lbs be any intense? I don't think so. You need to include the number of reps so you can call it intense or not.

-sk

The DEFINITION of intensity = average bar weight. Yes, doing 12 reps will be harder, because you are doing more VOLUME. Not more intensity. This is driving me crazy.

 

[sk*]

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The DEFINITION of intensity = average bar weight. Yes, doing 12 reps will be harder, because you are doing more VOLUME. Not more intensity. This is driving me crazy.

Bro, maybe in some skewed defenition of bodybuilding wording you are right, but that isn't the defenition that will come up in the dictionary. I think you see my point, it isn't how you define intensity ... point is you can get an "intense workout" (intense, as the english word) from 100rep range.

-sk

 

[Bulldog_10]

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Bro, maybe in some skewed defenition of bodybuilding wording you are right, but that isn't the defenition that will come up in the dictionary. I think you see my point, it isn't how you define intensity ... point is you can get an "intense workout" (intense, as the english word) from 100rep range.

-sk

but can you curl 2 dumbells, as in stupid people, for 100 reps?