The need to go to failure ...

[sk*]

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but can you curl 2 dumbells, as in stupid people, for 100 reps?

Please read what I said, cause obviously you aren't getting it.

Here is one defenition of the word intensity provided by Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary:

"The amount or degree of energy with which a force operates or a cause acts; effectiveness, as estimated by results produced."

And please don't patronize me.

-sk

 

[Mike_Rojas]

You guys love to argue. This is good stuff.

 

[Bulldog_10]

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Please read what I said, cause obviously you aren't getting it.

Here is one defenition of the word intensity provided by Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary:

"The amount or degree of energy with which a force operates or a cause acts; effectiveness, as estimated by results produced."

And please don't patronize me.

-sk

I don't mean to be a dick, I really don't. But it is obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about. And if i wanted to look up dumbell, I'm sure it would say something along the lines of "stupid person." We're talking about training, so we're talking in training terms...not every day language.

But if you want to get technical: that definition of intensity is right on, does it say anything about the distance through which the force operates? nope. So intensity is the amount of weight, reps is the amount of distance through which the weight is moved.

Take some courses in exercise physiology and get back to me.

 

[IronLion]

position = a definite point in space
velocity = the rate of change of postion
acceleration = the rate of change of velocity
jerk = tha rate of change of acceleration

force = ma

work = ma (s2-s1)
delta s being the change in distance

work is what is important when considering any weightlifting output

 

[casualbb]

Gentlemen, please.

*sk: there are two definitions of intensity

1. Intensity as a %age of 1RM. This is how the whole strength training world goes about definiting intensity. This is how strength coaches and strength athletes (eg Bulldog_10) will use the word, and generally the more valid definition.

2. The bodybuilding definition, as some vague concept relating to how difficult you perceived the workout to be. Generally the more severely the exercises were taken to failure, the more "intense" the workout. This is not taken very seriously in the strength world, where nobody trains to failure.

So make sure you specify which you mean when you say "intensity."

-casual

 

[sk*]

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I don't mean to be a dick, I really don't. But it is obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about. And if i wanted to look up dumbell, I'm sure it would say something along the lines of "stupid person." We're talking about training, so we're talking in training terms...not every day language.

But if you want to get technical: that definition of intensity is right on, does it say anything about the distance through which the force operates? nope. So intensity is the amount of weight, reps is the amount of distance through which the weight is moved.

Take some courses in exercise physiology and get back to me.

Man, do you hear yourself talking? I am not even arguing half the stuff you are. I am not even sure what you are trying to prove.

Point is, 100reps can be "intense" just like 1, 3, 6, 8,or 12 can be. Okay?

My original question was, how come 12reps (you can replace 12 with X if it makes you feel better) is better than 3 and better than 100 for bb purposes?

-sk

 

[Bulldog_10]

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Man, do you hear yourself talking? I am not even arguing half the stuff you are. I am not even sure what you are trying to prove.

Point is, 100reps can be "intense" just like 1, 3, 6, 8,or 12 can be. Okay?

My original question was, how come 12reps (you can replace 12 with X if it makes you feel better) is better than 3 and better than 100 for bb purposes?

-sk

Because it produces the best results.

 

[sk*]

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Because it produces the best results.

That's cool and all, I just wanted to hear a reasoning on why you think it produces best results ... not just anecdodal evidence.

-sk

 

[endpoint]

Gentlemen, please.

*sk: there are two definitions of intensity

1. Intensity as a %age of 1RM. This is how the whole strength training world goes about definiting intensity. This is how strength coaches and strength athletes (eg Bulldog_10) will use the word, and generally the more valid definition.

2. The bodybuilding definition, as some vague concept relating to how difficult you perceived the workout to be. Generally the more severely the exercises were taken to failure, the more "intense" the workout. This is not taken very seriously in the strength world, where nobody trains to failure.

So make sure you specify which you mean when you say "intensity."

-casual

word up

 

[Bulldog_10]

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That's cool and all, I just wanted to hear a reasoning on why you think it produces best results ... not just anecdodal evidence.

-sk

It has been shown in various studies. If you read the quote from that book i posted a while back, you'll see this:

"high volume training (8-12 reps/set) has been shown to produce greater gains in LBM..."

It's just from experimental evidence, there are lots of reasons behind it...i'll see if i can find specifics.