The coming plutocracy

[redsamurai]

How so? I can purchase grass fed and finished round steak from Eight O'Clock Ranch for $3.95 a pound which is cheaper than government subsidized feed lot beef, my grass fed beef is cheaper because when the government subsidizes something it only makes it more expensive.

Land is going barren in the country, we need layers of fertilizer to grow food now and will shortly need GMO's to grow anything out of the ground even though it will be almost wholly devoid of micronutrients. So alot of land in this country needed to be put to rest decades ago. Can't happen in a capitalist structure though where farms are competing. How is that farmer supposed to make a living and maximize his profits if he has to rest a portion if not all of his land. Farmers "used" to intrinsically understand this. But the chem companies have approached them and told them you don't need to rest dick, just use our seed or our fertilizer and you could grow corn at the N. Pole if you so desired. And when land starts to go bad it doesn't come back within a few years java, it's done for possibly centuries. The Romans experienced this and that land they overfarmed didn't come back for hundreds of years. Not many people know this but this topic was Darwins passion at the end of his life. A capitalist structure will force land to compete against other land. But overpopulation will also lead to the same end result.

 

[Fitguy308]

Do you even know anything about farming

 

[Mr. dB]

My first DVD player cost me almost $400.00 in the early 2000's, I bought one for $50.00 a couple years ago. How much was a cell phone in 1995? Don't get me started on how much a Pentium 133mhz system cost me in 1996 as opposed to the Dell I bought last year. How much was dial up AOL in 1998 Vs. current high speed?

This has less to do with economics and more to do with Moore's Law.

 

[Mr. dB]

Anyway, Java, apart from all these tangents, do you think that it isn't a problem that a tiny minority is controlling an increasingly large portion of the economy? Or does a rising tide lift all yachts?

 

[ismaele00]

Episode 08 - Justice with Michael Sandel

 

[-SD-]

Anyway, Java, apart from all these tangents, do you think that it isn't a problem that a tiny minority is controlling an increasingly large portion of the economy? Or does a rising tide lift all yachts?

You would think all those anti-trust/monopoly laws would have kicked in here at some point

 

[Mr. dB]

Episode 08 - Justice with Michael Sandel

Thanks for the link, now I'll have to watch the whole series of Sandel's lectures.

 

[redsamurai]

Do you even know anything about farming

yeah i've worked on 3 different organic farms. When i was in In the farmer took me to his fields next door that he bought from his neighbor that went under, the fields had been run nonstop for a long time. We took a couple shovel fulls out and he showed me the difference between that soil and his. He did this cause i asked what the big deal about GMO's were, why were they necessary. Well....when you're growing out of that kind of shitty soil that's what you need.

i'm hoping to sell my condo in 2 years or less and move out of the city to get a small plot with good soil.

 

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yeah i've worked on 3 different organic farms. When i was in In the farmer took me to his fields next door that he bought from his neighbor that went under, the fields had been run nonstop for a long time. We took a couple shovel fulls out and he showed me the difference between that soil and his. He did this cause i asked what the big deal about GMO's were, why were they necessary. Well....when you're growing out of that kind of shitty soil that's what you need.

i'm hoping to sell my condo in 2 years or less and move out of the city to get a small plot with good soil.

Killer paid/unpaid sharecropper internship?

sorry rob, had to in plunkeys honor hahah

 

[ismaele00]

Thanks for the link, now I'll have to watch the whole series of Sandel's lectures.

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