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The coming plutocracy

amywhere where the profit motive can collapse or severely damage a cohesive society. It didnt' use to be this way but food is quickly becoming an area where collectivist cultivation of will become a necessity. Our current food chain is irreperable, it serves merely to infect us. It offers no nutrition because the food companies have squeezed their margins so hard over the last several decades that they can literally grow "something" and call it food. Because people by and large no "nothing" about nutition they see some carbs and protein on teh package and think hey, that's all we need right? Carbs and protein are utterly positively useless without the micronutrients to assimilate them. It's the micronutrients that tell the body what to do with the macro nutrients. Without micronutrients you're just ingesting "matter". Your body will process this matter, at an energy cost to you, but return to you virtually nothing. If the meat industry didn't inject beef with vitamins and minerals, a massively inefficient way to deliver those nutrients, eating meat would be less than a zero sum gain. You would literally expend more energy digesting meat than you got back out of it.

How so? I can purchase grass fed and finished round steak from Eight O'Clock Ranch for $3.95 a pound which is cheaper than government subsidized feed lot beef, my grass fed beef is cheaper because when the government subsidizes something it only makes it more expensive.
 
How so? I can purchase grass fed and finished round steak from Eight O'Clock Ranch for $3.95 a pound which is cheaper than government subsidized feed lot beef, my grass fed beef is cheaper because when the government subsidizes something it only makes it more expensive.

Well first i just looked at that place and the prices are no different than regular beef from what I can tell...$3.95 is for top round which is basically bordering on dog food quality. I'm not holding anything against that business though i don't know them, they could be completely full of shit or completely truthful about how they raise their animals. It's "very" hard if not impossible for any regulatory agency to monitor every food manufacturer. It would be immensely cost prohibitive too.

But business's like that are going to be the future of the meat industry but it will be confined to local distribution.
 
Well first i just looked at that place and the prices are no different than regular beef from what I can tell...$3.95 is for top round which is basically bordering on dog food quality. I'm not holding anything against that business though i don't know them, they could be completely full of shit or completely truthful about how they raise their animals. It's "very" hard if not impossible for any regulatory agency to monitor every food manufacturer. It would be immensely cost prohibitive too.

But business's like that are going to be the future of the meat industry but it will be confined to local distribution.

I was raised on grass fed beef, free range chicken...I helped hang them from the clothesline before they were slaughtered, and pork that rooted for its food with some supplemental crab apples; We did finish our cattle with grain for the marbling but it was the last 4-6 weeks before slaughter. Grass raised beef cooks and tastes differently than feed lot beef; Eight O'Clock Ranch raises grass fed beef based on how it cooks and tastes.

If we didn't have sides of beef hanging from the barn rafters waiting to go to the processor we had a deer or two.

As far as your comment on top round, it isn't a choice cut, it's a bodybuilder cut because it's low in fat; Calling it "dogfood" is off base.
 
sure about that? I ain't eaten meat in some time but i remember the cuts....topround was shoe leather if i'm remembering my cuts right.

That's because it needs to be cooked low and slow to break up the connective tissue; It isn't marbled with fat.
 
Convenient youtube upload today.
John A. Allison Discusses 'The Financial Crisis and the Free Market Cure'

He touches on the role of the Fed, Fannie and Freddie in the beginning (first half or so), the rest of the vid is mostly motivational crap.
 
I can see where your arguments come from, you toe their line brilliantly java. He too is making the claim that all the greed and corruption on wallstreet was strictly incented by the govt. Completely glazing over the undeniable fact that they send lobbyists to lobby for a bill or regulation that allows them to do something.

Here's the flaw in the argument java...so they're saying that without a govt "incent" none of this stuff would happen? So if we completely deregulated wall street some invisible hand would regulate all these guys? It's an argument completely unbased in reality.
 
I can see where your arguments come from, you toe their line brilliantly java. He too is making the claim that all the greed and corruption on wallstreet was strictly incented by the govt. Completely glazing over the undeniable fact that they send lobbyists to lobby for a bill or regulation that allows them to do something.

Here's the flaw in the argument java...so they're saying that without a govt "incent" none of this stuff would happen? So if we completely deregulated wall street some invisible hand would regulate all these guys? It's an argument completely unbased in reality.

Why do they send lobbyists to Washington D.C.?

It's interesting the only people facing criminal indictment for the housing crisis are the former CEO's of Fannie and Freddie; The pseudo government clearing house that would buy anything. If you don't have a market for steaming turd mortgages then you won't write them.
 
Why do they send lobbyists to Washington D.C.?

It's interesting the only people facing criminal indictment for the housing crisis are the former CEO's of Fannie and Freddie; The pseudo government clearing house that would buy anything. If you don't have a market for steaming turd mortgages then you won't write them.


the "market" for steaming turd mortgages were the chinese.
 
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