The coming plutocracy

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and lemme guess, good plutocrats=democrats, bad plutocrats=republicans

I would expect nothing less from moyers

 

[binö]

I would expect nothing less from moyers

acting in a movie, throwing a ball around, singing and comedy=okay to be a millionaire
owning a business, making investments, developing products=omg you are a racist you didn't build that gimmie your money!!!

 

[Mr. dB]

and lemme guess, good plutocrats=democrats, bad plutocrats=republicans

Why don't you just watch the video?

I think the conclusion is that every plutocrat thinks that they're one of the "good" ones.

 

[redsamurai]

When have pornographers even attempted to market to children?

The government allowed unrestricted marketing of new coke and now the only drink we can purchase is new coke? Oh right, it was rejected even though it had the greatest marketing push in history.

Your thesis is that select criminals with an exclusive monopoly on violence are the people best positioned to manage everyone's life? Google Democide, governments have killed between 175 and 200 million of their own people in the 20th century, excluding wars; It's based on their policies. If you include wars, WWI and WWII weren't caused by businessmen....they were the natural outcome of government.

I'm happy to let you believe in your personal Jesus of government but the data are on my side and I only ask that you allow me to opt out.

java go back and read the previous post, i'm not exactly treating govt like my "personal jesus". The point of my post though was to enlighten you on your spurrious conclusion that crony capitalism is a function of the govt. How do you not get how this works yet? The market lobby's the govt, not the other way around java....i mean c'mon. Crony capitalism is a contruct of our privateers who have discovered that because we print the worlds reserve they can throw untold sums of cash at washington to secure their positions in their respective markets. "OF COURSE" there has to be receptor sites on the govt side for this cash to find.....but just saying, don't act like the govt is corrupting the virginal free market. I think you find unfettered capitalism to be your personal jesus even though you don't actually understand that unfettered capitalism is the "complete" absence of any regulatory collective body whatsoever.

 

[redsamurai]

When have pornographers even attempted to market to children?

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Oh never, just like ciggarette companies never tried to market to children either....what a spurious accusation, who does this redsamurai guy think he is?

 

[redsamurai]

so the bottom line here is do we need govt to intervene in the excess's of corruption we see in the market or do we handle business ourselves French Revolution style? It's one or the other. If dictating to the free market angels that they shouldn't lie, steal and cheat is not ok for the govt to do...then we have to do it ourselves. I wonder if the boys on wall street would rather have the govt slap them with a fine when they're up to good.....or a good ole rope party come for em....hmmmm?? If we're gonna be laisez faire we're gonna do it right old west style.

 

[javaguru]

Oh never, just like ciggarette companies never tried to market to children either....what a spurious accusation, who does this redsamurai guy think he is?

Joe Camel?

Your friends have far more impact in your formative years than marketing campaigns. Cigarette usage was already well in decline before the government banned Joe Camel. I grew up in the era of Joe Camel and the Marlboro Man; I'm insulted anyone would imply I was too stupid to understand smoking is harmful and would sacrifice my health based on a marketing campaign.

The Galbraith thesis that marketing controls society is patently false; I'd be drinking New Coke and voting for Barry if that were true.

 

[javaguru]

so the bottom line here is do we need govt to intervene in the excess's of corruption we see in the market or do we handle business ourselves French Revolution style? It's one or the other. If dictating to the free market angels that they shouldn't lie, steal and cheat is not ok for the govt to do...then we have to do it ourselves. I wonder if the boys on wall street would rather have the govt slap them with a fine when they're up to good.....or a good ole rope party come for em....hmmmm?? If we're gonna be laisez faire we're gonna do it right old west style.

The federal government and its pseudo institutions are the source of the corruption....Fannie, Freddie, Federal Reserve.

So I should "trust" government to look out for me? That's like claiming the mafia has my best interest at heart.

 

[Mr. dB]

The federal government and its pseudo institutions are the source of the corruption....Fannie, Freddie, Federal Reserve.

So I should "trust" government to look out for me? That's like claiming the mafia has my best interest at heart.

THE source of THE corruption? Without those three institutions, the financial services sector would be as pure as the driven snow?

 

[redsamurai]

So I should "trust" government to look out for me? That's like claiming the mafia has my best interest at heart.

not our current govt no, we didn't "really" elect them. It's a broadway act of two choices that has been paraded infront of us.