Testing Asian Underground Supplements

[beefybull]

I agree with you guys about having the concern about his manufacturing process of his gear… I am hesitant about using his injectables myself . Even if it may not be any different coming form a real company… it could be more of a psychological thing when we see it come in a jug, and the need to bake and boil them makes it seem all more sketchy. But the fact is, it may be no worse than what comes from the real labs. I haven’t tried any of his injectables so I can’t comment on them if they work or not, but I hear they work fine.

Not to promote stereotypes... but from my experience, most Asians are very clean, smart, obsessive compulsive, picky and precise. They take the extra step to do things the right way and take their time. They do not accept failure in any form especially if it’s from something they do. I would with no doubt in my mind believe there is a chance these Asian stereotypical traits are put into his gear making. … Just look at how fast the shipping and order process is too. They do it very well and precise. And if you complain to him…. That’s disrespect... “NO MORE GEAR FOR YOU”(have seen this happen to people)

I just don’t see the chances of him being THAT dirty. And by the volume of gear he sells and keeps stocked, I don’t see how he could be doing all this in his basement. IMO there are a lot of people involved and they cold possibly be manufacturing in a real lab with real employees. Who knows though anything could be the truth, but in all the real deal is probably not as bad as we all think.

Word.

 

[Frackal]

Why pay 100/100 for IP ox when you can get 100 beautiful spanish generics for the same price....his stuff is probably just inconsistant, not always fake, not always 100%, the ox has tested 9mg and 4mg for example....I'd stick with human just on principle though for injectables....no fucking way I'd put underground shit in my body. Not even mexi shit if I can help it.

 

[bazilbb]

i wonder when most of the gear comes from MEXICO to US, why r u so bothered about china, u r forgetting that thailand is almost same as china, but its gear is considered as the best.
besides labour is cheap and they cater for 100+million of their and rest of the world population. they know how to cut costs on BULK

 

[AussieJack]

Not to promote stereotypes... but from my experience, most Asians are very clean, smart, obsessive compulsive, picky and precise.

Well, having lived in Asia for over five years, I know most Asians would have a thing-or-two to say about that!

Let me digress a bit before I get to the point: Asians don't see themself as a "group" like most American or Europeans would. A Chinese would see feel that he resembles a Japanese or a Thai about as closely as he resembles an American.

And I am guessing you are drawing your conclusions from limited experience with Asian-Americans--which is a whole different ball game. The are far more well-to-do economically that Asians in most Asian countries. That leads to a very different lifestyle!

I posted a similar repsonse on another board recently, so I will paraphrase:

In Asia, and China particularly, life is cheap. People die every day for lack of $10 in medication. Most of Asia is still "developing country status" (or if you prefer "third world"), where poverty and corruption are rampant. Public sanitation is no where near the level we know in the west, with rats in kitchens and open sewers running into the drinking water. Hospitals are often big open-air pavillions with limited medical facilities.

So what does this have to do with Asian underground pharmaceuticals? Well, that's gives a depiction of the environments that set the standards for public health and safety.

Even in publically monitored healthcare facilities, often common practices of cleanliness sterility is ignored. To save a buck, they wash and re-use syringes and rubber gloves becasue they can't afford new ones. (When I travel in back-country Asia, I carry a doctor's 'script for needles & my own supply--just in case I ever need to go to a small-town hospital!)

So, if you are looking at some guy brewing things up in a lab that has no governmental controls on safety, the possibilities become almost frightening.

I would NEVER use his gear. After seeing the low-regard that people have for public health in MOST Asian countries (with places like Ja[an, Korea, Singapore and HK excluded), I would never risk using underground pharmaceuticals.

Maybe they were OK for you--but playing Russina Roulette is perfectly safe 5 out of 6 times! (That sixth time is a real bitch though!)

Stick to gear that is is manufactured under the authority of some company or agency that will insure that its manufactured to some international standards of satey and purity--for your sake!

 

[techlifter_2]

why dont you go over to www.anabolicboard.com and review the test results yourselves? Some of his products contain what and almost as much as he says, some dont. Besides, inconsistency has become synomonous with his name.

 

[Bulldog_10]

You forget to mention the sink, or bath that is his mixing apparatus.. which he still bathes in..

How annoying is this quote?

 

[jboldman]

If you are really interested in finding the answers to these questions answered in a reasonable way you need to look at other boards where this has all been hashed out in a more adult way. Quite simply when you can buy gear for the equivalent of $1-2 an amp and it obviously works(c'mon guys, folks would not be sending this guy $k's if it was bunk) it makes it an easy choice unless you happen to live in the UK and buy it for $2-3 and amp or are well off and can afford the $10-17/amp that is the going price for quality euro gear. Sure, there have been problems but on balance most folks have been satisfied. Just read all the pros and cons, make yourself aware of the limitations and then make your choice. THere is a reason that even on the biggest ** flamer board in existence, when a poll was posted about the best gear, IP came out way on top! BTW, there is NO WAY any of us knows whats in that vial on the shelf no matter what the label says. Hey, if it did not work for you, don't buy it, share your experience with others. All I can say is it has and still does work great for me!

 

[SkullFuct]

bolloks bro, I am not calling the asian gear fake but I just dont see why you guys would want to inject shit that came out of a 100ml vial from the other side of the world probably from a 3rd world country with poor hygene and less impressive manufacturing procedures,would any sensible person not spend the little bit extra cash and go with a properly produced and labelled and known to be sterile european product ??
bbigman2000...

For god's sake just use a sterile filter! I thousands of guys can make a STERILE injectable from fucking pellet implants and not get sick then I have no problems with IP's stuff.
BTW the prop/test no ester in oil is one of the best tests on the market.

 

[beefybull]

Go to http://www.anabolicboard.com/
and register

They have a section of test results in which many of IPs products were tested, some of the results were very good

 

[Pacesetter]

You forget to mention the sink, or bath that is his mixing apparatus.. which he still bathes in..

How annoying is this quote?

Yeah it's very typical of the bullshit poignant rhetoric that is bandied about on this board.

You guys who talk like that thoroughly nuke your credibility as a genuine critique of gear, IP or otherwise.

Peace