T 300 + EQ + Nolva + Proviron

[00pump]

Hi there

Please can somebody advise to the following. I am using around 300/350mg of test a week + 200mg EQ. I am using 50mg Proviron and 20mg Nolva, I know that dose may be high for the ammount of test I'm taking but I allready have 'some' gyno and also don't like bloating when I use test.

I am getting nice strength gains and eating like a king well most probabbly not to all. I am 6'3" at around 96kg's so around 200 pounds I am consuming 200mg protein a day on training and non training days.

I have been using EQ only for 200mg 8 weeks and now added some test, during that time I still took Nolva (20mg) + 25mg Proviron to help utalize free test and help previous gyno I had. Yes I know I will never get rid of it completely I have tried Arimidex I have tried 80mg a day nolva and around 100mg a day Proviron it doesn't work.

But anyway, what I want to know is am I on the right track here, PS I also suffer from high blood pressure and on 300mg 1 type of tab and 10mg another, so the proviron + nolva is helping.. less estrogen / less water / lower BP.

Also about my dose I don't take higher doeses as I used to be a 'pig' with the stuff and take 1000mg test 1000mg deca 10 units Jintropen hGH, 5 units Slin (lantis). And I find taking these small doses I can feel more in control, I see noticeable gains (longer pumps) / (increase apitite), more intense training, and don't break out with uticeria, which is why I stopped gear, etc and I can feel my skin is sensative even on this dose and close to having a break out. I have to take antihistamines and chamomile tea just to prevent a outbreak.

Any advice to any of these points would be grateful.

Any extra info required please feel free to ask, but what i'm really looking at is a slow building phase and keep gains. Also remeber allot of 'drugs' I can't use because it really provokes my skin, just adding this bit of test is allready making me on edge.

Sweeet.

/Phil

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hi there

Please can somebody advise to the following. I am using around 300/350mg of test a week + 200mg EQ. I am using 50mg Proviron and 20mg Nolva, I know that dose may be high for the ammount of test I'm taking but I allready have 'some' gyno and also don't like bloating when I use test.

I am getting nice strength gains and eating like a king well most probabbly not to all. I am 6'3" at around 96kg's so around 200 pounds I am consuming 200mg protein a day on training and non training days.

I have been using EQ only for 200mg 8 weeks and now added some test, during that time I still took Nolva (20mg) + 25mg Proviron to help utalize free test and help previous gyno I had. Yes I know I will never get rid of it completely I have tried Arimidex I have tried 80mg a day nolva and around 100mg a day Proviron it doesn't work.

But anyway, what I want to know is am I on the right track here, PS I also suffer from high blood pressure and on 300mg 1 type of tab and 10mg another, so the proviron + nolva is helping.. less estrogen / less water / lower BP.

Also about my dose I don't take higher doeses as I used to be a 'pig' with the stuff and take 1000mg test 1000mg deca 10 units Jintropen hGH, 5 units Slin (lantis). And I find taking these small doses I can feel more in control, I see noticeable gains (longer pumps) / (increase apitite), more intense training, and don't break out with uticeria, which is why I stopped gear, etc and I can feel my skin is sensative even on this dose and close to having a break out. I have to take antihistamines and chamomile tea just to prevent a outbreak.

Any advice to any of these points would be grateful.

Any extra info required please feel free to ask, but what i'm really looking at is a slow building phase and keep gains. Also remeber allot of 'drugs' I can't use because it really provokes my skin, just adding this bit of test is allready making me on edge.

Sweeet.

/Phil

drop either the proviron or the nolva...better yet, drop them both and use arimidex...

what are you doing for PCT?

 

[00pump]

Pregnyl 1500 X 6 vinyls every 3rd day
Nolva 20mg 20 days
Clomid 50mg twce a day 20 days
HOT (Post cycle) 90 tabs/bottle (HMT) 2 tabs a day
Animal Stack ( 1 pack a da)
Proviron 25mg a day. 30 days.

Thing is how long is it safe to do this cycle, i'm looking at around 1 year? thats the other reason for low doses not to sap receptors?

Thanks for quick reply.

 

[nydj66]

With the cycle that you're on proviron is probably enough of an A.I. that you don't need the nolva.

Letro can be used to get rid of your gyno lump completely. I used it to rid myself of hard lumps that I'd had for 3 years.

All anabolic steroids increase red blood cells which will thicken the blood and raise blood pressure. Since you already have BP issues, I don't think you can keep this cycle up for a year. Not to mention the fact that after a year on cycle you will probably never fully recover your HPTA.

 

[absmuscle]

up testosterone and also take 1mg arimidex every day!

 

[00pump]

Thanks for all the advice.

I can't really up my test as my BP then will go up to 190... at the momnt its around 127 which is AMAZING on a course... I can up EQ without my BP going hay wire and it doesn't add as much strain on my kidneys.

This is my first post on elitefitness, what an amazing source of information... thanks all.. no point doing things in the dark anymore, yes everyone has their own point of view but its really great the support you get.

Thanks again!

 

[00pump]

nydj66 did you have female breat formation or just lump, I have a bit of fatty tissue too, so i'm not sure if it can get rid of that? I really would prefure not to go under the knfe and get really hard around my chest area (mainly around my nipple area) like I said in first post I have tried some serious attempts to get rid of it, with long courses of high dossage of a mixture of AI / Estrogen blockers.. Also the reason why I threw the nolva in was to try 'slowly' reverse the gyno that I currently have.

I am really happy with my buld but just really embarresed with my gyno, and years back I was around 6% bodyfat when I was training / surfing everyday and everyone was really blown away by my physique now I just feel at a point I am reall not stocked with the way I look all because of the gyno, but the operation is very costly too...

 

[nydj66]

nydj66 did you have female breat formation or just lump, I have a bit of fatty tissue too, so i'm not sure if it can get rid of that? I really would prefure not to go under the knfe and get really hard around my chest area (mainly around my nipple area) like I said in first post I have tried some serious attempts to get rid of it, with long courses of high dossage of a mixture of AI / Estrogen blockers.. Also the reason why I threw the nolva in was to try 'slowly' reverse the gyno that I currently have.

I am really happy with my buld but just really embarresed with my gyno, and years back I was around 6% bodyfat when I was training / surfing everyday and everyone was really blown away by my physique now I just feel at a point I am reall not stocked with the way I look all because of the gyno, but the operation is very costly too...

For the most part I just had lumps. On the left side some extra tissue had formed that was just starting to point the nipple down.

I did 2.5 mg/day of letro for 4 weeks. My libido was so wiped out I couldn't stand to be touched.

Coming off the letro I'd recommend that you either taper the dosage down or use nolvadex for 2 weeks to avoid the estrogen rebound that can bring back the gyno.

 

[00pump]

nydj66 is there a safe way of getting this stuff into south africa? I'm really afraid of customs? and I dont know anyone here that sells it, but if it will save me surgery I Iwould really like to give it a bash... how many bottles would I need?

see if I am cold (you see no signs of gyno) but when it is hot it is very visable, specially to me and as everyone knows thats had it, its really bad on your self confidance.

thanks

 

[NeedToBuildMuscle.com]

Hi there

Please can somebody advise to the following. I am using around 300/350mg of test a week + 200mg EQ. I am using 50mg Proviron and 20mg Nolva, I know that dose may be high for the ammount of test I'm taking but I allready have 'some' gyno and also don't like bloating when I use test.

I am getting nice strength gains and eating like a king well most probabbly not to all. I am 6'3" at around 96kg's so around 200 pounds I am consuming 200mg protein a day on training and non training days.

I have been using EQ only for 200mg 8 weeks and now added some test, during that time I still took Nolva (20mg) + 25mg Proviron to help utalize free test and help previous gyno I had. Yes I know I will never get rid of it completely I have tried Arimidex I have tried 80mg a day nolva and around 100mg a day Proviron it doesn't work.

But anyway, what I want to know is am I on the right track here, PS I also suffer from high blood pressure and on 300mg 1 type of tab and 10mg another, so the proviron + nolva is helping.. less estrogen / less water / lower BP.

Also about my dose I don't take higher doeses as I used to be a 'pig' with the stuff and take 1000mg test 1000mg deca 10 units Jintropen hGH, 5 units Slin (lantis). And I find taking these small doses I can feel more in control, I see noticeable gains (longer pumps) / (increase apitite), more intense training, and don't break out with uticeria, which is why I stopped gear, etc and I can feel my skin is sensative even on this dose and close to having a break out. I have to take antihistamines and chamomile tea just to prevent a outbreak.

Any advice to any of these points would be grateful.

Any extra info required please feel free to ask, but what i'm really looking at is a slow building phase and keep gains. Also remeber allot of 'drugs' I can't use because it really provokes my skin, just adding this bit of test is allready making me on edge.

Sweeet.

/Phil

Why people don't take care of gyno first before starting another cycle? Just kills me.