Stopping Testcyp 8 weeks---FERTILITY ??

[Zyglamail]

Simply put HCG mimics your own LH and WILL get the testes going whether on cycle or off, there is no question about that.

However, LH is produced by the anterior pituitary gland and its release is ceased when test levels are too high which in turn means your testes stop producing. If you take external LH (in the form of HCG) it will get the testes working but it doesnt mean your going to help your anterior pituitary gland produce lh. So no matter how you cut it, introducing something from the outside into the system will have a negative effect on something.

The consensus has been that the anterior pituitary gland is more apt to start up LH production after a vacation than your testes so using HCG on and off for a little while during a cycle keeps the testes working to some degree so that when all exo test is out of the system they are more apt to restart production a little faster because they have at least been sporadically (ie 2x a week or so) triggerd into action while your bodies own LH production was stopped.

Can i be harmed by taking like 5-6 injections of hcg only 300-500iu's per shot??

HCG has a short half life, like 24 hours, so daily injections shouldnt cause any harm, but as I said above, constant use will just suppress your anterior pituitary gland from producing LH on its own so when you stop HCG you now need to wait for that to start working again.

 

[pendit]

I agree with you 100% ZYGlamail. If it werent for Need2 and a few other sites I joined, I would be in the dark and my family doc really didnt have a clue. Im surprise they allow docs to prescribe Test without really understanding the repercussions---shutting down/ and lowering your natty production. OKbottom line do u think Ill be ok taking this HCG I have here on hand & how much do u think I should dose?? I have been told 1500iu's every other day to spark, to 150iu's 2 times weekly. This Tuesday will be 2 weeks since my last shot, however, i did have a total of 8 shots over a 80 day period--Decemebr 10th thru March1st. I am going to go have a lab for sperm this week, and if i come back at under 20 million sperm count, I might file a complaint against my doc, cause he saod it would help with fertility, and he didnt mention anything about it suppressing my HPTA/shutting down---hes just clueless. His plan was just to give me 10 shots and then retest my blood--- well hell yes my T levels will go up because of the injections, but then what? I get lured onto TRT, when it really was not necessary, and furthermore he didnt mention anything about TRT. My endo asked me whats TRT-- he said there are no doctors of TRT, its unrecognized by the medical society in general. I said they specialize in hormone trreatments and helping people have a better quality of life and he said never heard of it!!! I said well look what listening to my MD doctor got me?? I said my doctor who referred me to you put me on the highest dosage of TRT therapy and didnt realize the affects to me/fertility etc. He said you got a point!! lol
Endo didnt even want me to be tested on next labs for E2/estrogen---do u guys think i should have that checked?? Again, would u guys take the 10,000 iu's of the HCG---i mean it couldnt hurt me any worse than where I am now, correct. And when should I consider taking some unleashed or Bridge or possibly Nolvadex if I decisde to order a good serm?? You think i should just take some good supps like ones I just mentioned or order a good serm like Nolva or clomid??? Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you got the worst of both worlds, a clueless doc injecting you and an endo that never heard of TRT. I must say though, your test levels are low, especially your free test. My free test came in at 8.2 last time and I felt like crap, even though my total test was higher than yours. I think if you get your test levels up for a while, you'll eventually realize how much better life is. I understand that right now you're concerned about fertility. Follow Zyg's advice, but consider TRT in the future once there's a bun in the oven. This site is filled with more information than you can imagine on steroid usage, etc. Read and learn so you can go back to your doc for injections and know how to make up for his lack of knowledge. You're lucky to find a doc wanting to do weekly 200mg injections!

 

[chas3369]

Sounds like you got the worst of both worlds, a clueless doc injecting you and an endo that never heard of TRT. I must say though, your test levels are low, especially your free test. My free test came in at 8.2 last time and I felt like crap, even though my total test was higher than yours. I think if you get your test levels up for a while, you'll eventually realize how much better life is. I understand that right now you're concerned about fertility. Follow Zyg's advice, but consider TRT in the future once there's a bun in the oven. This site is filled with more information than you can imagine on steroid usage, etc. Read and learn so you can go back to your doc for injections and know how to make up for his lack of knowledge. You're lucky to find a doc wanting to do weekly 200mg injections!

You got it man!! If i was really interested in getting jacked little bit--yeah my doc is cool and issuing the m200mg ew sounded good and my strength was startin to mkick in damn good; however, my testes were starting to die out ya know after that 6th shot!! I just wish he would had a clue cause I couldve started taking HCG the last 4 shots and kept my boyzz going and then not have to worrry as much about all this shutting down and PCT etc. Bottom line is shit happens for a reaon and I agree that you can learn alot by reading and posting and self-educating, and now the issue is will I crash little bit or will I rebound OK---Im hoping my levels will get back to where they were aND THEN i CAN MONITOR And watch for things and have an idea of whats going on. I do think I need to have my estradiol checked because it seems I have some sides of having high estrogen!!!! Thanks guys!!!!!!!

 

[XMAN.]

in ur case i wouldn't use anything just let ur body bounce back to where it was b4, forget about hcg or serms , the only thing that u can do without sides and can actually boost ur natural production is to take an AI (aromatase inhibitor) like Aromasin , 2 or 3 halves tabs per week (12.5mg/e3d or eod) it'll lower ur estro and shbg and boost lh productiion and free more test for anabolism and can actually help u remove some of that belly fat u have by blocking estro production.

 

[chas3369]

in ur case i wouldn't use anything just let ur body bounce back to where it was b4, forget about hcg or serms , the only thing that u can do without sides and can actually boost ur natural production is to take an AI (aromatase inhibitor) like Aromasin , 2 or 3 halves tabs per week (12.5mg/e3d or eod) it'll lower ur estro and shbg and boost lh productiion and free more test for anabolism and can actually help u remove some of that belly fat u have by blocking estro production.

Xman wheres the best place to get aromasin/aramidex??

 

[XMAN.]

Xman wheres the best place to get aromasin/aramidex??

sorry i can't tell u that no sourcing is allowed on this board only if there's a sponsor that sells it but there's not, so u have to find it yourself. but what i can help u with is give u the address of this forum which many of the guys here on EF r members in including me and it's a source check forum which can help u find a legit source for anything : Elite-bodiez Steroids Sources and Supplement Forums