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Stop Recommending Testosterone To Newbies!

You are right this is an "unpopular stance."

From my experience Tren Ace at 100mg eod is more supressive to sex drive than anything else (I've never done Deca). Test gives massive erections on cue but when the high levels are gone you suffer with lack of sex drive the same way you do with high doses of Tren Ace / Prolactin.

From my experience w/100mg Tren Ace eod and 650 mg Test Enan/week testing the results were:

Prolactin 0
Test Levels >- (0)?

My test levels were "less than zero" while prolactin was proven to be zero. A less than zero may be an erorr??

This test was taken 5 weeks post cycle after full PCT.

My conclusion: testosterone depression can be severe and
Trenbolone doesn't always increase prolactin levels.

rudy76
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when i did tren ace 125 eod my sex drive was thru the roof...insane how bad it was..
 
I've been researching my first cycle (if I choose to do one) for about a year and for the longest time heard "test only" every time. I was always planning on going low dose (250 mg) but more and more that I've looked into it and talked to those who have been around for awhile/older guys in good health and shape they steer you away from test. It appears to usually be the younger/more recent users that push it mostly. I know of one older/shredded guy who does low doses of d-bol (5 mg, never more than 10 mg) for 3 weeks on and 1 off for years. It seems that all of the healthier/in-shape looking guys, even today they are in shape (Zane, Scott, Nubret, etc.) generally avoided test. I'm now leaning towards Primo as a first cycle with maybe turanabol or a very low dose of d-bol (5 or 10 mg). One guy that goes to the gym I work at tells me that there is no way I should use test at my age (23) and that EQ, etc. would be a much better option.
 
when i did tren ace 125 eod my sex drive was thru the roof...insane how bad it was..

how'd you get yourself bombed and in negative karma?
 
I'd be happy to be close to 225-227 at 10-12% BF. That isn't lanky at all:D

wait till you get there. You'll still feel that you look "lanky" and then you'll want to get to 240, and you'll think that will be the golden number...but it won't be either.

It never ends.
 
wait till you get there. You'll still feel that you look "lanky" and then you'll want to get to 240, and you'll think that will be the golden number...but it won't be either.

It never ends.

+1

I always wanted to get to 200lbs, being 5'8", when I got there, Now I want 220lbs.
 
+1

I always wanted to get to 200lbs, being 5'8", when I got there, Now I want 220lbs.

I used to think 225-230 would look huge! Bah, I still look skinny (to me).
 
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