Stirring the Pot...

[takniteasy]

I thought I would respond since after much consideration and research I just began my first cycle of anavar. Myself, I have been weight training for about 7 years and I am generally a fanatic about eating clean. I have competed once just for the experience and am pretty knowledgable about my body. I noticed over the last couple of years, that maintaining a decent bodyfat% (meaning about 15-16% to me) has become increasingly more difficult. I feel that I have reached my natural potential and just want that little extra edge in maintaining the physique that I have worked hard to attain. I am not using Ana to compete. I think most people would probably call my reason "vanity". I like feeling strong when I work out, I like the way I look when I am cut and I feel better about myself when I like how I look. So, my opinion is if an individual is knowledgable about their own body, does the research and honestly weighs the pros and cons of AAS, then they can make a reasonable and well-thought out decision about the use of the substance.

Just my .02

 

[smallmovesal]

i'll put it this way:

my gains working out hard for SEVERAL MONTHS were nowhere near as great as they have been on a var cycle.

natty it would take me 10x as long to get where i want to be.

 

[takniteasy]

Smalls, I read on chat board somewhere that you gained 16#. Congrats to you Do you have update pics yet?

 

[smallmovesal]

thanks...

i have to take some more... i haven't been posting them because there were some assholish men on my case about it.

 

[NY Muscle]

one of my FAVORITE topics to rant about..people taking juice before hitting there genetic natural limit..or working out for at least a friggen yr or 2.

when it comes down to the difference between those people with a GREAT natural base (i had a 10 year natural base b4 EVER thinking of taking juice) and those who just started working out and are taking juice, or only worked out a yr or less is....

the people with no good natural base are only RENTING the muscle they have....the others can hold on to the muscle they have added with juice MUCH MUCH more easier.....(if you dont beleive me whach what happens IF they come off for a year)

Ive been off for 1 yr and laugh at my friends who are still on and off and on and off (who had no good natural base) because im still MUCH stronger than them in the gym as well as look much better.

Many people feel bad for these losts souls who are only renting their muscle (i dont.. i laugh) because they are always on, even when they are "OFF", everyone knows these people in the gym, im talking guys here even though the more i read EliteFitness the more i realize the girls are NO different.....
these are the guys with huge traps, possibly even delts, NO arms and NO legs...the traps are alwasy the 1st thing to blow up when jucing and since these clowns started juicing way to early, thats all that ever grows and over powers the rest of their body....I also call these guys the MAY, JUNE, JULY juicers, because thats when they start training "hard" again, getting ready for summer, only to shrink down after summer is over...then there are the guys who never come off, and they still look silly, there are so unproportioned and odd looking, and can only max 315 on bench, thats one of the major signs that these dopes started juice WAY too early, is the odd look they have as well as VERY "imature" looking muscle bellies, as opposed to veteran lifters whose muscles look much nicer.

Hey whos to blame right? Everyone wants results and want it YESTERDAY...but what irritates me about these DOPES, is that that criticize other people with GREAT natural bases who are on SOME juice, claiming that "oh they HAVE to be on TONS of shit to look hat good"... um no u moron, its called we bust our ass and pay attention to diet, not lazy and pathetic like yourself. I recall this one kid who was juiceing WAY too early and we discussed cycles, the idiot told me he was taking 1000mg of test as well as other drugs per week, i was FLOORED, the kid weighed maybe 200lbs at 6ft 2inches, and when i told him i was on 400mg of test, and some EQ, he 1st off said I was outright lying and just plain didnt want to listen to me.....oh well..

like i said...the RENT is always due for these guys....whach what happens if they ever come off

 

[hardbdygrl]

good post NYM!

 

[NY Muscle]

good post NYM!

OMG funny you say that babe...i browsed threw this thread last night before bed and seen your reply, i was like OMG look at hardbdygrl go, so eloquent and straight to the point and no ANNOYING COMMAS....i LITERALLY woke up this morning and thought that was a dream, so i came to work and re-read your reply, an sure enough it wasnt a dream!! ( i swear im not making this up)

i wanted to tell you also that your reply was on point too!!

 

[KBgrl]

what MS and VDL said!! Amen

I wonder why people get so irritated at others who take AS who have "not reached their genetic potential???" It's like.. why do they care so much? It's so judgemental and just down right annoying . I say stop being so fuckin preachy.

I have a friend on here who seems much more "tolerant," for lack of a better word, to early AS use when posting on the board then when speaking to me. why is that? its like... why wouldnt anyone be happy if someone is getting AWESOME results?? seems a lil screwy and bitter to me and really gets to me sometimes .....sooooo lets just leave that out of our conversations from now on please

 

[NY Muscle]

what MS and VDL said!! Amen

I wonder why people get so irritated at others who take AS who have "not reached their genetic potential???" It's like.. why do they care so much? It's so judgemental and just down right annoying . I say stop being so fuckin preachy.

Well my personal beef with these dopes is that i have had to deal with the (guys) bitching and moaning as long as i can remember and even many many years before i was a trainer and before i ever did juice (always got accused of juice back in the day when i was natural and people would actually ask me juice advice lol).
They are constantly ON and never come OFF, or if they do they lose it ALL....they dont understand what hard work is...they throw #'s around (like SOO many people on this site do) about their lifts...but when i actually sit their and make them do certain lifts in front of me, their form is so off its LAUGHABLE...these clowns think a 500lb 1/4 SQUAT is something to be proud of...or they CHEAT and JERK or BOUNCE every inch of their life on other excercises just to get the weight to move and SAY they lifted SUCH n SUCH amoint of weight. ever see an idiot do side laterals and cheat so much it becomes a damn TRAP exercise. NO WONDER their bodies looks so stupid and sloppy.

their bodies do NOT know how to grow without AAS because thats what they have *taught* their body...so IF they ever come off they SHRINK....but the bitching and moaning i hear from these kids makes me very opinionated on this subject...like i said, if ANYONE looks better than them then they MUST be on TONS of juice according to their logic...these clowns NEVER think im telling the truth when i tell them the doses i have taken in the past, it all comes down to 50% my great natural (10yr) base and 50% diet and kick ass hard training...something these people will never know ANYTHING about, guys AND girls..

 

[colombo ny]

Ny Muscle,

One of the best post I've seen on this board.