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Starting out my Clen cycle!

shaitan28 said:
Ketotifen, what is this? Any good sites on info or ordering info? Is it controlled or otc?

is an antihistamine like benadryl...benadryl will work the same but is less effective and more needs to be taken. I didnt know you were 17, clen is a harsh drug for your age, so if you are going off it and want to use an OTC stack you can use benadryl in the same way to clean the receptors
 
Windkun said:
jeez, today so far I ate

2 met rx peanut butter replacement bars
3 tablespoons peanut butter
2 apples
1 quacker oat chocolate chip bar
some grapes
2 tyson boneless chicken breats (terriyaki)
a cup of coffee
- a few small things im forgetting, and I feel bloated yet I still ate under 1600 calories -_-.

I would stay away from clen untill u need to drop weight. right now I would look to put on not take off weight. If u need some advice just pm I"ll help ya out
 
You're in a great position, Wind.
At 17 you overcame a lot of extra weight and today you're fit. That's an excellent base to start your adult bodybuilding.

First, define your goals for 6 months, 1 year and 5 years from now.
That will determine the directions you go over that time.
That's also what will determine the diet you choose.
A powerlifter, a bodybuilder, and an endurance athlete all have different diets that take them to their goals. The diets that people give you here will help, but they may not match exactly with what you want to become. So it's time for you to learn about it through research.

There's a Diet tab on the Home page of this forum. Click that and start reading. Use the search function to bring up information on proteins, fats and carbs. You need all three, especially at your age. The proper balance of those along with all the other nutritional components and proper working out will give you what you need for now. You'll discover why the daily diet above won't help you really grow.

From that information, put together a couple of diet plans that will match your goals and then post them in that forum to ask what those people think of your work. You might get some smart ass answers just like you did in here. Let that trash roll off your back and keep your focus of what you want to accomplish.

And since you've touched the areas of AAS, I strongly suggest you resist the temptations to use those products until you're well into your 20's. That might seem like a long time for you, but you have a lot left to do that your body will yet do for you on its own.

Once you've reached a natural limit and you're finished growing(I've read about age 26), then reconsider it. I'm sure a lot of people in their early 20's who use AAS may disagree with that, so research it to make up your own mind.

That's controversial. It's worth you weighing both sides for yourself and not just listening to what someone else has done successfully in his own life.

You'll see some guys quote in here 'Food is the best steroid you can use.' Find out what that means, especially for you. When you get to 18 and 19 and you have your diet together and your exercise and rest together, you may grow as though you were on a permanent cycle. I'm watching a 19 year old at my gym do just that naturally.

It's easy to keep good health with good habits.
It's difficult to regain good health once you've messed it up.

Best wishes to you,
Mike
 
Eat like crazy bud. I am sure you like being lean but you need to put on some size. Youll look like an runway model if you cut anymore. Your 17 with a good base and a fast matobilsm, eat 4000 cals a day and practice your heavy core lifts. Deadlift, Squat, Bench.
 
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