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So I decided to start my first cycle ever...

Here's your life plan for muscle:

1. Dedicate yourself. And I mean forever, day in, day out, no breaks, no vacations, no finish line. You will be broke, you will lose girlfriends, you will lose jobs. You will eat till you wanna puke, you will lift till you wanna puke, EVERYday, day in day out. Your rent/car payments/bills might be late sometimes, your gym membership will Not. You will have sleepless nights, you will get mad, you will cry. You have no job anymore, this is your job now, everything else is a hobby that pays. And yes, you're still gonna be broke. There will be no "freak outs" there will be no "poor me's" there will be no crutches, no easy ways out, there will be No excuses, that word doesn't exist for you anymore.

2. You feel sick, bad, like quitting, sad, refer to #1 and get that ass up.

3. Why are you still f#cking here reading?! Chop chop p#$$y, gym time.

Still seem like a great, easy way to get big and bad? Because of so, you will meet a version of you that you never knew existed and couldn't even fathom lived inside you. You will be pissed that you spent all those years without him.

Note how many times juice was mentioned there. Make that^ commitment for life, then we can talk. There isn't gonna be any half assed "two cycles" so I look good for bitches and I'm done. Nah, this isn't for bitches, this isn't for bullies, this is for You. And you'll know you're there when you catch your reflection in a car window and spend half a second trying to figure out who in Hell that dude is
 
Three hundred bucks is not a lot of money. A first cycle on test is usually cheap.


Read what bigorse said. It isn't just the test. HCG, arimidex, nolva, clomid. It all adds up.

I will bet that your whole problem is your diet. I hate the term diet and it should really be lifestyle change. Bulking is still on "diet". You just slightly increase calories and change up your macros.
Just counting calories will not get you there. If your diet is causing you to be hungry, you are probably counting calories. You should be eating every 2-3 hours. This will also speed up your metabolism.
I started out at 235 and about 30% bf to 165 and 5% bf in 10 months all natural. Cardio 2x day for 45 minutes plus the workout. It can be done but you need to want it. There is no magical AAS that will give you the perfect body without effort. The only reason that i started AAS was to be able to compete.
AAS results will be lost if you are not on the right diet. Inevitably, you will lose some once you go off.
 
Here's your life plan for muscle:

1. Dedicate yourself. And I mean forever, day in, day out, no breaks, no vacations, no finish line. You will be broke, you will lose girlfriends, you will lose jobs. You will eat till you wanna puke, you will lift till you wanna puke, EVERYday, day in day out. Your rent/car payments/bills might be late sometimes, your gym membership will Not. You will have sleepless nights, you will get mad, you will cry. You have no job anymore, this is your job now, everything else is a hobby that pays. And yes, you're still gonna be broke. There will be no "freak outs" there will be no "poor me's" there will be no crutches, no easy ways out, there will be No excuses, that word doesn't exist for you anymore.

2. You feel sick, bad, like quitting, sad, refer to #1 and get that ass up.

3. Why are you still f#cking here reading?! Chop chop p#$$y, gym time.

Still seem like a great, easy way to get big and bad? Because of so, you will meet a version of you that you never knew existed and couldn't even fathom lived inside you. You will be pissed that you spent all those years without him.

Note how many times juice was mentioned there. Make that^ commitment for life, then we can talk. There isn't gonna be any half assed "two cycles" so I look good for bitches and I'm done. Nah, this isn't for bitches, this isn't for bullies, this is for You. And you'll know you're there when you catch your reflection in a car window and spend half a second trying to figure out who in Hell that dude is


Geez ZMY, you got me motivated!
 
I honestly dont wanna diet for a while. I starved myself like crazy for more than 3 months and all for nothing. It makes me wanna quit for real.
 
Look go do your gear and then if you don't get the results you want, what then, what are you going to do there is no more options left for you except what everybody has been trying to tell you.
 
Diet does not mean starving yourself. It is all about te quality of food. A good diet and you have enough to eat and not starve yourself.
You need to get your diet squared away whether you use AAS or not.
 
I honestly dont wanna diet for a while. I starved myself like crazy for more than 3 months and all for nothing. It makes me wanna quit for real.

Pick another hobby then, bodybuilding isn't for weak minded pussies.
 
Pick another hobby then, bodybuilding isn't for weak minded pussies.

That was kinda mt point with the "dedication" post. If you don't "wanna" any part of this, its not gonna happen. You don't wanna diet, you don't wanna train, but you wanna shoot yourself with hormones and expect results. You will get results, they'll just be man titties and sides galore. I dunno where people got this idea that juice gives you muscles. That's not how that works At all
 
You guys sound like I never trained hard. I killed my ass during these 3 years. I was at the gym six days a week. In ocassions I was even overtraining. I even sacrificed my grades in a couple of semesters when I started working out. I trained hard as fuck. It just that every time I bulked I gained too much weight and it was something I couldnt control. It happended every time. No matter how much I counted my calories I still got fat.

In my last bulk I tried to lower my bf % and in three months I was already looking like a teddybear. Yeah, at least I had some definition, had a wider back, thicker legs/arms and the like, but my gut was too obvious for someone that was at the gym six days a week. You guys need to stop judging me. I didnt take the decision of taking steroids because I want the easy way. Im just frustrated, sick, tired, depressed, sad as it seems that there is no other way for me to get in shape. I just thought it would be easier for me to start a cycle as a base for building muscle. The more muscle the easy to breakdown fat. I really thought I could lower my body fat that way. Like I said before, I feel like Im starting to get old and I really want to be in shape at this time in my life. Once I passed my 35s it wont feel the same way. You guys have no idea about everything Ive gone through. Trust me.
 
I'm just thinking in eating at the maintenance level and work out hard that way. Im sure sooner or later I will see progress. Maybe it will just take me a little bit longer to see solid results. I dont know.

Last time I tried to cut I worked out my legs twice or once week and they got bigger and my glutes as well. And that was like in three weeks or even less. Guess I am of the ones who build muscle on a calorie deficit or something.
 
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