Short cycle completed, in PCT now...thoughts and a question

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Just wanted to share my experience and ask a question or two...

I did a short cycle which started 5 weeks ago, which went very well and wanted to share my experience up to this point. The cycle consisted of:

Weeks 1-3: Test Cyp at 240 mg and Anavar at 37.5 mg. Also included was .5 mg of Armidex 3x a week.
Week 4: Test Prop at 200 mg, and Halotestin at 20mg (dropped the Anavar). Also included was .5 mg of Armidex 3x a week.

I saw great strength and size gains ESPECIALLY when I dropped the Anavar for the last week in favor of Halotestin. So I've been clean for a week, and my PCT consists of the following:

Arimidex .5 mg 3x a week for the first week, 2x a week for the second week, followed by 1x a week for the third week
PF Post Cycle and Unleashed 3 servings each a day.
Twinlab Tribulus Fuel, 1200 mg a day
Maca 1000 mg a day
Procaine 2 tabs a day
Phosphatylserine, 500 mg a day
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 1500 mg a day
Calcium D-Glucarate, 400 mg a day
Deprenyl 2.5 mg a day.
r-ALA at 2000 mg a day
tons of milk thistle

Now a week after I started using this stuff my libido is through the roof...and continues to be. Even more so then when I was on test. I was also floored that a week after my last prop injection, my strength in the gym is still VERY high. Two days a go, I just added 100 mg of Clomid to the mix for 3 days, then I plan on running it at 50 mg for the remainder of two weeks.

Based on the week I had with all the herbals and Arimidex alone, I was almost tempted to not use the Clomid at all due to my libido and strength being so high, but I figure Clomid at the dose and duration I'm going to run it should be fairly side effect free. I wouldn't rely on the herbal route 100%, but based on what I felt using the herbs, deprenyl and Arimidex, I would absolutely NOT cut them out. My sex drive is so high right now it's almost annoying, and from what I've read it should be DOWN a week post cycle, right?

My main question is, if I were to see a "crash" (meaning loss of libido, strength, etc.) when would I see it? I feel better now than I did when I was on. The only thing that's annoying is the headaches that I think Clomid is causing.

 

[Paulo]

Well, it is certainly plausible that the herbs you are taking are somewhat responsible for your heightened sex drive.

Sounds great, so what are your stats now? bf% etc?

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Well, it is certainly plausible that the herbs you are taking are somewhat responsible for your heightened sex drive.

Sounds great, so what are your stats now? bf% etc?

Unfortunately I did not do a bf% test beforehand which I should have, but my scale weight is up 9 pounds and I definitely look leaner. Strength gains in bench press and squat have gone up astronomically.

 

[bigbair]

How long are going to stay on the herbal therapy? Looks like a good combination and I'm running a short cycle right now myself. Should be done around the end of July and would like to consider something similar to what your doing.

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

How long are going to stay on the herbal therapy? Looks like a good combination and I'm running a short cycle right now myself. Should be done around the end of July and would like to consider something similar to what your doing.

The herbal stuff works, but I wouldn't depend on it entirely. The Nelson Montana recommendation is to run the herbal therapy with A-Dex 2-3 weeks post cycle. I'm throwing in a 2 week run of Clomid as an "insurance policy".

Also, it might be more than just the herbs (Tribulus, Muira Pama, Avena Sativa and Maca) that are having the effect...I'm also taking Deprenyl and Acetyl L-Carnitine for good measure.

 

[bigbair]

Thanks. I was planning on the clomid. What do you think about substituting A-dex for Nolva at 20mg/day for the full three weeks? It's been a while since I have done a larger cycle, for the main reason that I didn't take my PCT seriously enough then. I was younger and foolish at that time. Since then I've realized its importance and I'm trying to fine-tune exactly what I will do before I cross that bridge.

Right now I'm running 500mg HCG twice a week to help w/ atrophy, etc..., will discontinue that about a week prior to ending the cycle and will begin the herbal regimen, along w/ clomid, etc... In short, I'm doing my best to do it right. Any suggestions you might have are welcome...but I like the herbal approach your taking as well. Any sources you recommend for the herbs?

 

[confid12000]

I am also on PCT after a short cycle and I am following the advice I saw from Mavy in an old mail. It was a Primo & Var cycle, so I do not think I should need much PCT, though... Here it goes:

1st day 1500mg HCG

Weeks 1-4:

20mg Nolva;
Post-Cycle & Unleashed from ProteinFactory.com (Maca plus all other sort of herbal aid)

However, I am now at the end of week 2 and I have noticed decreased libido... I was thinking of maybe adding some Clomid or try another shot of HCG...

Hope it helps.

 

[Goodfellow]

Awsome post

 

[poantrex]

Just wanted to share my experience and ask a question or two...

I did a short cycle which started 5 weeks ago, which went very well and wanted to share my experience up to this point. The cycle consisted of:

Weeks 1-3: Test Cyp at 240 mg and Anavar at 37.5 mg. Also included was .5 mg of Armidex 3x a week.
Week 4: Test Prop at 200 mg, and Halotestin at 20mg (dropped the Anavar). Also included was .5 mg of Armidex 3x a week.

I saw great strength and size gains ESPECIALLY when I dropped the Anavar for the last week in favor of Halotestin. So I've been clean for a week, and my PCT consists of the following:

Arimidex .5 mg 3x a week for the first week, 2x a week for the second week, followed by 1x a week for the third week
PF Post Cycle and Unleashed 3 servings each a day.
Twinlab Tribulus Fuel, 1200 mg a day
Maca 1000 mg a day
Procaine 2 tabs a day
Phosphatylserine, 500 mg a day
Acetyl-L-Carnitine 1500 mg a day
Calcium D-Glucarate, 400 mg a day
Deprenyl 2.5 mg a day.
r-ALA at 2000 mg a day
tons of milk thistle

Now a week after I started using this stuff my libido is through the roof...and continues to be. Even more so then when I was on test. I was also floored that a week after my last prop injection, my strength in the gym is still VERY high. Two days a go, I just added 100 mg of Clomid to the mix for 3 days, then I plan on running it at 50 mg for the remainder of two weeks.

Based on the week I had with all the herbals and Arimidex alone, I was almost tempted to not use the Clomid at all due to my libido and strength being so high, but I figure Clomid at the dose and duration I'm going to run it should be fairly side effect free. I wouldn't rely on the herbal route 100%, but based on what I felt using the herbs, deprenyl and Arimidex, I would absolutely NOT cut them out. My sex drive is so high right now it's almost annoying, and from what I've read it should be DOWN a week post cycle, right?

My main question is, if I were to see a "crash" (meaning loss of libido, strength, etc.) when would I see it? I feel better now than I did when I was on. The only thing that's annoying is the headaches that I think Clomid is causing.

Keep using the clomid. Arimidex and a few herbs raise my libido, but it drops as soon as I stop generally - clomid will usually raise it after using it for a few weeks and keep it there.

 

[awittyusername]

weight is up 9 pounds and I definitely look leaner.

Nice Job bro, I will be happy with your results when I start my short cycle.