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Sarge's Lifting Chronicles 2006-2007

Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

your old team win???

nice work on the chins...i wouldn't expect to see much progress though putting them 3rd in the rotation...by the time you get to them your already fatigued and lifting 215 is fawking tough even to start out on... if you want to keep adding reps to your chins i would do these first...but that's only if your goal would be to increase your reps
 
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ck2006 said:
I was thinking the same but I didn't want to be the first to nag LOL

I'll second!! Good pics though. None of this green shadow shit.....lol :p
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

yeah, my old team destroyed them... 12-0 for the season and another Div. 1 Championship :garza:

No pic updates :p

I may be taking up Karate again... going to stop by the Dojo i've been thinking about today. I haven't trained since circa 1997 when I received my Joshu-Shoban rank in Shorin-Ryu.

This should be interesting :)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Good luck with the Karate.

My strength and size went in the crapper whan I was rolling BJJ
 
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The Shadow said:
Good luck with the Karate.

My strength and size went in the crapper whan I was rolling BJJ
Thanks man.

I can imagine. I think BJJ is much more intense, with cardio and conditioning than what I'm looking into if it turns out to be similar to the other style I studied.

If I go head first into it we'll see if I can keep up with my weight training too. We all know i'm going to be taking a protein shake to the Dojo for training, LMAO!

The stances are going to kick my ass, I tried a few of the old ones and my hips and quads were screaming.

I have weight training tonight :D Can't wait! :evil:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Hows things sarge? thought i would just stick my head in to see how things are going whilst i have a spare few mins (i dont get many lately). Things are looking good, keep up the good work bro.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Week 3 Day 4
11.20.2006
Monday

5:50pm

Light-CGBP: Barx10, 95x8, 120x8, 145x8, 170x8

BTN-PP: Barx8, 95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 155x5

DB Decline: 65's for 8, 75's for 8, 85's for 8

Delts Gallore
Side Raises & Front

6:50pm

Deep tissue massage tomorrow fawk yah!!! - much needed, dang hands and arms going numb and tingly again. Hopefully help with my back too. Chiro hasn't been able to get my lower back yet (went today... again wed.).
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

PUT HIM IN A BODY BAG JOHNNY!!!!
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GOOD LUCK SARGE!! DON'T KICK TOO MUCH ASS WHERE YOUR NOT INVITED BACK :evil:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Just checking in...solid push-pressing as usual. You should be able to push those (no pun intended) nicely this cycle without the demands of squats and deads.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

JPT: lol... right on! I'm hoping to enter some tournaments like I did back in the day and open a can of whoop ass.. being that I'm 90lbs bigger and much older than when I last competed :evilking: :karate:

CS: Thanks mon. I hoping so too :) But the main push is for a bigger bench, as you know :evil:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Wishing you a happy turkey day bro, hope the bod is getting a little R&R. Keep rocking it!!
 
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Maffiosa said:
Wishing you a happy turkey day bro, hope the bod is getting a little R&R. Keep rocking it!!
Thanks man, likewise!!
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*Updates*

Deep tissue last night was awesome, if I could see her weekly... I would. I feel so loose, she got out all the knots in my back and traps and worked the crap out of my delts and arms.

Another chiro. appt. today went ok... my lower back is still sore and tight, he has yet to align it.

He's recommended I get back to doing dead lifts (SLDL's more specifically), I asked what rep range he said 10-12 if it feels ok, I can go heavier, but i'm not going to screw myself over by going crazy with them and pull near 400. He said no GM's.

I bumped my leg workout last night due to massage and wanting to enjoy the relaxation after rather than hit the gym...

Today is: Legs, SLDS's and Karate intro appt. tonight.
 
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Sarge has been practicing for his karate this evening... asked me to post this for critique
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Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Umm...what's the rationale behind allowing SLDLs but not GMs?

Bunny, that was hilarious. :lmao:
 
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*Bunny* said:
Sarge has been practicing for his karate this evening... asked me to post this for critique
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May need to get a little more practice in LOL!
 
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Cynical Simian said:
Umm...what's the rationale behind allowing SLDLs but not GMs?
I'm guessing ROM... because I sit for hours and hours, the full stretch at the bottom of the lift with SLDLs would be better is what I gather.

And if I feel pain, I can dump a bar more easily by letting go rather than falling forward, lol.

My lower back arch is very pronounced (huge curve) naturally he was saying... so getting that full stretch should be good for it, I guess.

I dunno. Going to give them a shot in a couple hours if not sooner when I get to the gym... I'll have a full report later, lol.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Um, there seem to be a lot of uncertainties in and in your knowledge of his reasoning (or lack thereof). Dumping the bar is a decent reason to prefer SLDLs over GMs, but it's beside the point because you shouldn't be getting heavy or close enough to failure that it would be an issue, given that you already know that your back is aggravated by lifts that place high demands on it.

Chances are that you could get away with whatever you do if you go light enough, and at some point strengthening your back, and particularly whatever muscle groups are causing an imbalance if that's the cause of the problem, will be a part of your plan. But the chiro's logic and services have produced nothing but the most ephemeral and mediocre results so far, so I'm not sure why you're trusting him now.

T-Nation has an excellent series of articles entitled "Neanderthal No More" about posture, and one of the main things they discuss is lordosis, the extreme spinal arch you just described. It might be worth a look.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

CS - While I do understand the point of lightening the load to correct imbalance(s)/strengthen, I would prefer to grip the hanging weight is the form of SLDL rather than Good Morning the weight. I also think it would be easier for him to progress that way since IMO he would be able to go heavier than GM's and be more comfortable with the lift as a whole.

To put things in perspective my current PR for a SLDL is 120 x 6. There is no WAY I would slap that across the upper & good morning if I had lower back problems, No matter how perfect my form is. It makes my lower back ache thinking about it actually. I wouldn't even be comf with 90 lbs that way either.

Granted I don't know if the curve he speaks of is a huge arch in the form of a sway back (my old trainer partner had that pretty bad I'd say sarge is 'normal' compared to that sway) but IMO the form for the SLDL may allow for more flexibilty of this 'arch' which would prove to be more beneficial to his training. If his chiro can SEE the arch/curve CHANGE when bending forward and the hand on , face to face approach he uses to feel this change is pertinent, then the suggestions he made are on the right path for rehab'ing with the purpose to allow for better ROM, increase strength and flexibility. Now if the arch is fixed without any flexibility then I would question his recommendations for the movement.

With any back issues of this kind he has described, I would be wary of strapping any weight across the upper... period. Light weights maybe (re: squats) but I feel he'll make more progress with this docs suggestions and can see why it was suggested as such.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Week 3 Day 5
Hump Day
11.22.2006
4:45pm

5 minute treadmill warm up

p = plate

Leg Sled: 2p x 12, 4p x 8, 6p x 8, 8p x 8
I came down to my chest with my knees and let my knees go out even, so a bit past my chest... yeah hard to breathe in that position so I didn't say down there too long. Last set was hard, close to failure... feeling weak, could be attributed to food and/or deep tissue last night.

Step-ups: BWx10, +40x8, +60x8, +100x10

ps=paces
Farmers: 85's for 38ps, 95's for 30ps, 105's for 32ps, 115's for 32*
*first time I didn't drop the 115's when I turned around, just shrugged them up and re-gripped... my grip is getting stronger.

SLDL off Box*: 135x12, 185x8, 185x8**

*Box was (if I had to guess ~6 inches). The bar hit my instep if I rolled the bar back.
**over shot the weight big time, lol... hard as hell, could barely walk after... hammy's toast, back a lil' pumped... tight, no pain, feels worked... feels great.


Shrugs: 185x8, 225x8, 315x8, 405x3*, 135x10
*Exhausted, no more energy, weak.. I had to strap up for 225 too, grip was toast

Decline Crunches: BWx8, BWx8

5:53pm

7:30pm Karate :karate:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

sgtslaughter said:
Week 3 Day 5
Hump Day
11.22.2006
4:45pm

5 minute treadmill warm up

p = plate

Leg Sled: 2p x 12, 4p x 8, 6p x 8, 8p x 8
I came down to my chest with my knees and let my knees go out even, so a bit past my chest... yeah hard to breathe in that position so I didn't say down there too long. Last set was hard, close to failure... feeling weak, could be attributed to food and/or deep tissue last night.

Step-ups: BWx10, +40x8, +60x8, +100x10

ps=paces
Farmers: 85's for 38ps, 95's for 30ps, 105's for 32ps, 115's for 32*
*first time I didn't drop the 115's when I turned around, just shrugged them up and re-gripped... my grip is getting stronger.

SLDL off Box*: 135x12, 185x8, 185x8**

*Box was (if I had to guess ~6 inches). The bar hit my instep if I rolled the bar back.
**over shot the weight big time, lol... hard as hell, could barely walk after... hammy's toast, back a lil' pumped... tight, no pain, feels worked... feels great.


Shrugs: 185x8, 225x8, 315x8, 405x3*, 135x10
*Exhausted, no more energy, weak.. I had to strap up for 225 too, grip was toast

Decline Crunches: BWx8, BWx8

5:53pm

7:30pm Karate :karate:
:karate: Update
My karate intro session was 45 minutes of me sweating my big ass off in a hot little private lesson room, lol.

The style is VERY similar to my old one... so I'd progress quickly if I decide to join after my 2nd free intro.

Thankfully I could walk by the time I got there...after lifting my legs were jello... I had enough energy to blast the bag for my instructor though :evil:
 
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sgtslaughter said:
:karate: Update
My karate intro session was 45 minutes of me sweating my big ass off in a hot little private lesson room, lol.

The style is VERY similar to my old one... so I'd progress quickly if I decide to join after my 2nd free intro.

Thankfully I could walk by the time I got there...after lifting my legs were jello... I had enough energy to blast the bag for my instructor though :evil:
lol Did you have another video you wanted me to post? :D

Nice work! Why not do it? Something new & fun?
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

*Bunny* said:
lol Did you have another video you wanted me to post? :D

Nice work! Why not do it? Something new & fun?
lol... na, I didn't take any vids this time :p

:) Thanks! I dunno... once we talk about the $$$ I'll see if I can swing it... it's not exactly 30 per month like a gym membership... I'm hoping to negotiate with 'em, lol.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

lol, I swear you just resumed karate as an excuse to use the :karate: smiley.

So what's the plan for your back? Do you still plan to have some imaging done after the first of the year?

Also, I want to pimp that T-Nation article again. Even if it isn't the cause of your back issues, the worst consequence of working on that exaggerated curve will be that it makes your stomach look flatter. ;)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Cynical Simian said:
lol, I swear you just resumed karate as an excuse to use the :karate: smiley.
So what's the plan for your back? Do you still plan to have some imaging done after the first of the year?
Also, I want to pimp that T-Nation article again. Even if it isn't the cause of your back issues, the worst consequence of working on that exaggerated curve will be that it makes your stomach look flatter. ;)
hehehe, :karate:

Yup, I can and will have some kind of imaging done early '07 if my back isn't better. It was so close to being in the "green"/really good range, before I slept in a hotel bed again... it's like i was set back a week or 2 again.

I checked out the t-nation article... interesting.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=472224
^^^ for my ease of use and all the lurkers so they don't have to google it, awww i'm so considerate, lol :p

I've skimmed all the articles, it'll take me a few more readings to absorb it all. Great stuff for sure. That IT band /glute stretch my chiro introduced me to...that's a great one.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

^^ CS that is a great article btw.

lmao at the use of the :karate: smiley lol :nerd:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Argh, sarge, you edited what you said about tight hips/glutes/left hamstring and just changed it to "interesting". :p

But yeah, that's exactly the stuff that the T-Nation stretching articles do a good job of covering. Namely, a tight back (or shoulders or whatever else) doesn't happen in isolation. So go nuts on those stretches if you've been slacking. :)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Cynical Simian said:
Argh, sarge, you edited what you said about tight hips/glutes/left hamstring and just changed it to "interesting". :p

But yeah, that's exactly the stuff that the T-Nation stretching articles do a good job of covering. Namely, a tight back (or shoulders or whatever else) doesn't happen in isolation. So go nuts on those stretches if you've been slacking. :)
LOL! I didn't think i was editing, i thought i had done the "preview post" :rolleyes: whatever.. if u copied it... paste it. I got carried away cutting "fluff" i figured it wasn't nessesary.

I stretch more than Gumby :)

For the lower back issues I have my chiro. is always amazed at how "flat" I can get my back... meaning I can almost fold in half... I can more than touch my toes... I hold the back of my ankles and pull myself in to my legs.
 
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sgtslaughter said:
LOL! I didn't think i was editing, i thought i had done the "preview post" :rolleyes: whatever.. if u copied it... paste it. I got carried away cutting "fluff" i figured it wasn't nessesary.

I stretch more than Gumby :)

For the lower back issues I have my chiro. is always amazed at how "flat" I can get my back... meaning I can almost fold in half... I can more than touch my toes... I hold the back of my ankles and pull myself in to my legs.[/QUOTE]


That just sounds so kinky LOL :heart:
 
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ck2006 said:
That just sounds so kinky LOL :heart:
You're naughty :velvett:


HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE!!

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I started off my festing day with huge plate of pancakes and eggs :) ... making sure I take my Gluc-R's and Sesas hour on the hour today, lol
 
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sgtslaughter said:
You're naughty :velvett:


HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYONE!!

:RADAR
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I started off my festing day with huge plate of pancakes and eggs :) ... making sure I take my Gluc-R's and Sesas hour on the hour today, lol
:evil: No comment
 
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*Bunny* said:
:evil: No comment
damn right :chomp:

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Well, the gym that I was told was open til' 4pm today was closed when i drove there around 1pm ... fuck.

Called 1.800.Free411 for about 5 other gym numbers in a 20 minute drive radius... nothing.

That sucks... I wanted to get a long walk in... it's pouring outside and i'm a vag so i'm not doing that.

Back to eating :)
 
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sgtslaughter said:
damn right :chomp:

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Well, the gym that I was told was open til' 4pm today was closed when i drove there around 1pm ... fuck.

Called 1.800.Free411 for about 5 other gym numbers in a 20 minute drive radius... nothing.

That sucks... I wanted to get a long walk in... it's pouring outside and i'm a vag so i'm not doing that.

Back to eating :)

Get your ass outside in that rain! hehehehe.....
Have a great turkey day!!
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Hey Sarge :wavey:
I was asked to put some input in your log about your back... so I did some skimmin Well I went back 30 pages and found everything I could on your back... Let's say I have 6 pages in Microsoft Word full of different things connected to your back. I'll copy those in the next post to make your longest thread post ever... :lmao:

Chronic back pain, I saw one note that it’s been at least like this from last spring.

I see you don't have insurance, no x-rays till Jan., you are seeing a chiropractor for some time now, (Sept 17th is as far as I read back) now 2-3 times a week for 4 weeks.
The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.

During that time I see 1 visit to a massage therapist Sept 30th.

Left leg ¼ inch longer then the right, knee issues, lower back locked up L1-L5, list your left flexor in one post as super tight (which one?!?), your cervical vertebrae were put in alignment and only a few days later they were back out of alignment per your posts.

Sleep on hotel beds a lot despite. You enjoy sleeping on your stomach, on your new bed. :evil:

Back is sore in the a.m. some days, gets sore with deads, putting your feet up causes excruciating pain.

One post you said your erectors were conditioned so you don’t get flare ups.. I would negate that thought.

I see one post you don’t need no stinkin advil, honey you need something!!!

You were looking at your back in one mirror thinking whoa where did those erectors come from?!? Yet in another post I do see that your BF was higher then what you wanted. Not trying to downplay all your hard work, but I think your erectors were so constricted that I could palpate them just by looking at them. Not necessarily a good thing to see your erectors in a mirror unless you are really low BF.

Standing Overhead DB extension felt like compressed your back 3 inches, Do not do those.

Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!

-I see you love stretching, lol Well… get used to that also. One stretch I would like to see you add is a psoas release technique. Go to my muscle thread under the Psoas post and it talks about it in there. I incerted some of the stuff about psoas here for you:

Psoas:
Origin: Bodies of T12 –L4 vertebrae
Insertion: Lesser Trochanter of Femur
Action: Hip Flexion, External Rotation of Femur

-I think Psoas could be one of the many tight muscles you have. But I think it will be tighter on your left side since you have said left side is tighter. What did the chiro say about pelvic alignment? That muscle alone can torque your pelvis. Since your L1-L5 seems to be tight that muscle connects from the T12-L4…
- The sensation of being centred and grounded comes from a healthy psoas in combination with a balanced weight-bearing pelvis. The keystone of skeletal alignment, it is the balanced pelvis that provides a base of support for the spine, ribcage, neck and head. It is the aligned pelvis that transfers weight down through the hip sockets, legs, knees and feet. If the bones do not support and transfer weight properly, it is the psoas muscle that is called upon to provide structural support.
- Chronic muscular tension, overdeveloped external muscles, and muscular substitutions can be linked to a tense or overworked psoas. Birth anomalies, falls, surgery, overexuberant stretching or weightlifting may create pelvic instability or affect the functioning of the psoas muscle.
- Increased risk of lower back injury during hip extension activities when knees are bent. After complete flexion of the hip, the lumbar spine will flex if movement is continued. The risk of injury is increased if the lumbar spine is not accustom to this movement or workload. Examples of affected exercises: Leg Press , Squat , Single Leg Squat . Example preventative / corrective exercise: Glute Stretch , Adductor Magnus Stretch.
- Back pain, exacerbated by heavy squatting, deadlifting, and lumbar flexion. Pain can limit lumbar spine flexion, reduced hip flexion, range of motion, a hypomobile or 'blocked' sacroiliac joint, possible rotated ilium, and increased muscle tone in TFL/psoas and gluteals.
-I think a chiro and a massage therapist work well together. I am amazed your chiro has not suggested for you to go to a massage therapist to help release the muscles then he can do the spine manipulations easier. I would not allow a chiro to crack my back if it was forced. There are definitely musculature imbalances in your back.
Would you go to an auto body detail shop to get your oil changed in your car?!? They both may deal with a car in general but each one specializes in a certain area, it’s the same with massage. A massage therapist specializes in muscles and releasing techniques, a chiro practices getting your bones back into alignment.
I would spend my money on a massage therapist to help get the muscle imbalances back into proportion then visit the chiro.
-As far as lifting any heavy weight bearing activity is only going to debilitate you more. I would focus more on lighter lifting mostly hypers unweighted higher reps followed by stretching. Add in unweighted supermans, opposite hand and knee extension on floor or on a ball, back twisting and breathing exercises, lat, psoas, glutes, hams, TFL, and quad stretches. The stretches every day. Pre-ice the back. If you know you did something to the back as far as lifting a box or etc.. I would automatically ice it, take IBUPROFEN if you think (Quit being stubborn). Does your left knee aggravate you more or your right? Your leg press is affecting your back also!! Your latest post you said you took it all the way down till your knees flared. That automatically puts tension on the low back by flexion. I would not go past 90 with the knees to protect your low back.
-Until you get X-rays and find out what is jacked with your back I would not recommend doing any sort of heavy lifting with the back. Do you want a disc to slip further? That is your call to make, but as a professional I would highly not recommend it.
- O.k. My 2 cents added, hope that helps!!!
P.S. You asked this in one post
“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”
Pinched nerve you will feel tingling or a numbing sensation. Disc problem varies to what is going on, could be cracked uni or bi, could be slipped, etc..
 
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Everything from today till SEP 17th 06 about your back in your posts:

“Leg Sled: 2p x 12, 4p x 8, 6p x 8, 8p x 8
I came down to my chest with my knees and let my knees go out even, so a bit past my chest... yeah hard to breathe in that position so I didn't say down there too long. Last set was hard, close to failure... feeling weak, could be attributed to food and/or deep tissue last night.

SLDL off Box*: 135x12, 185x8, 185x8**

*Box was (if I had to guess ~6 inches). The bar hit my instep if I rolled the bar back.
**over shot the weight big time, lol... hard as hell, could barely walk after... hammy's toast, back a lil' pumped... tight, no pain, feels worked... feels great.”

“It's only a problem with lifts that I need to bend at the waist and put major pressure on my lower back because my spine is out of whack there still... for now. Until it's straight, i'm not stressing it. Once my chiro can finally get that in-line... i'll probably wait a few more weeks... then start doing light Good Morning's (GM's) and strengthen my spinal erectors without having them be unbalanced from my lower back and hip displacement from my muscle imbalances and tight hamms and glutes (stretching multiple times a day still).

I was doing fine with 150+lb GM's before... but I think strengthening my back when it was unknowingly "out of whack" made it worst with squatting deep 3x week (with that slight bend at the bottom and all the weight going to my lower back).

Eh, I don't have much pain at all from it anymore, it's getting better for sure ”

“Soreness in the region of lunges”

“Lunges: BWx5, +20x8, +40x8 ... omfg, I thought I pulled my groin here, I think it's my ham/glute "tie in" area... holy shit it's sore as hell already Lunges aren't fun, lol

LONG break and streching out my glute/hamms real good cuz they were hurting here.”

“Hotel beds official suck ass....”

“Went to the chiro... my back is tight as hell again. No more front squats, hopefully it won't take 2 weeks off from that to loosen up again... shit that sucks.
Another chiro appt wed...”

“Front Squats: BWx12, Barx12, BWx12 & streches, 65x10*, 95x10*, 115x10* (belt)

* sat in hole for a few seconds, really took my time with the sets
after my 95lb set I felt my back getting tight, took a long break before 115... then took a LONG break after 115 before I went on..

Decline Sit ups: BWx3 ... O....M...G is all i have to say... I really went too "all out" that first sit up session. On the negative, i actually fell back down on each rep cuz it was too painful, i couldn't hold the slow negative.”

“have no idea what's light or heavy for me, i'll ramp it up slow and once feels heavy but still reppable I'll keep it there i guess

If my lower is still bugging me (it's one of those "bad" mornings) there will be no squating... fawk, i was looking forward to it. I kind of expected some discomfort from finally having my lower adjusted after a month + of being out of whack..but dayum.

I may get my lazer like focus on and do some 1,000 rep extentions and leg curls, step ups for good measure”

“thanks maing Well worth it IMO if you train, work seated for 8+ hours... bound to be outa whack from something. Feels so good when I get cracked, i love it ”

“YES!!! My lower back is really starting to "let go" and loosen up finally.

My chiro got it to pop a tiny bit... but that's huge progress, since I was in excruciating pain when he'd try to do it before... a couple more weeks and I think i'll be in good shape

Continue doing my stretches and keep with the training I have outlined”

“ok. I said I can't go get xrays yet (until the Jan.) yeah, i'd like to be certain... but it's just not an option at this time.

Yeah, I'm happy with it right now for the most part...it's better than it was, so that's a good thing. Thanks... deff the rest and avoiding any lifts that have aggrevated it has been a positive ”

“quick clif notes: no x-ray... doc doesn't think it's disc issue... lower back still tight... chiropractor appoitnments 2-3x week for 4 weeks... hopefully resolve it. Got a few new streches i'm doing too... back feels great since i haven't aggrevated it in a while”

“Yeah, me too... I was VERY please about that... but kinda knew it'd be fine because my back is straight. It's when I bend I find problematic.

Thanks. No, i'm not toughing anything out bro... I'm avoiding anything that'll tweak my back until it gets fixed by the unlimited chiropractor appointments i have for 4 weeks or works itself out. He doesn't think it's a disk problem... that's fanfreakingtastic... but he wouldn't know for sure without an xray.”

“it's not bothering me from lifts (i'm not lifting)... musta slept funky last night, i need to see the chiro too. Still playing it by whim right now.

appreciate it man.”

“thanks guys... but, I'm working out with weights by this weekend while avoiding ANYTHING that may aggravate my back... no pushing through the pain.”

“the way this morning went... chillin' and just "working out" seems like it'll have to do. I think i have good mornings where my back is fine and bad mornings were my back feels fawked... today was a bad day ”

“Sumo deads, i should have done when my back was hurting last spring hind sight is a b1tch. Saftey squats... no such "machine" in my gym... 1 leg - leg press most likely.”

“my back still hurts.
chiro is all i can do until around january, the 1st of the year...
Will have to remap a new training regimine without most of the core lifts that I need (no squat, dead, bent over barbell row {supported t-bar replacement})
I remember reading somewhere that 1 legged leg sled pressing was much easier on the back... may have to look into that as my only "core" lower movement for now.
A new log will probably be upcoming as well...”

“Thanks bro! yeah...well, i can't lift because of my back anyway... just kinda worked out like this, lol.

Hopefully I won't be out of commision TOO long ”

“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”


“ I get them when I can, BELIEVE ME! Deep tissue is the only way to go Last one was Sept. 30th ”

“I'm deffinetly taking my 2 days off here (this is my "weekend" after day 3) and gauge my back and see what i'm going to do if it's not loose yet, i'm not going to keep hammering away and risk injury...it's my back... I do NOT want to be fucked and out of commision for a long time.. looking into Health Insurance soon hopefully”

“putting my feet up like that would put me in excruitiating pain ”

“No, please no nasty streches, lol.

Tight doesn't even begin to explain how wound up it is, lol... my chiro hasn't been able to crack my L's for a few months because it's so damn tight.

still hurts this morning.”

“ATF Squat
bar for 8, 100x5, 140x5, 160x2, 195x5, 240x4 (belted..lower back fawked)... hurt like a bitch... layed down for a bit... back felt "100%" at the time then did 1 more rep. ... layed down again... exhausted now on top of it hurting to even bend down to get a drink at the water fountain.
thought i devised a little plan to attack my PR...”

“I probably will have eaten close to 7,000 cals today after my next meal... guess food doesn't replace CNS burnout and back fatigue/pain.
... going to ice my back and lay down.”

“Back is feelin' it from the Deads still”

“Eh, my back is fine usually... I blame the 3 shitty nights of sleep on a crappy hotel bed for the recent lower back issues righ tnow... it should be fine in a few days... Sometimes my back is bulletproof...but when my spine is out of align...,it must pull on the muscles differently to make it such a pain in the ass again.”

“After set 2 on deads my lower back was SHOT... i felt it starting to get angry during squats... and I had to belt up for top 3 sets of Deadlifts... gat dang... that last set was a screamer too... took way too much effort than I think it shoudl have taken....chalk, straps and all...”

“BTW: it's been exasterbated because of the shitty hotel bed I've slept in for 3 nights. Last night was the 1st night back in my glorious comfy bed ”

“I wish it was that easy bro... while i'm still functioning fine... it's not painful just feels funny... I can't go in preventativly.”

“My damn spine is bothering me big time... i can't get it in place by myself.”

“My spinal erectors.. surprizingly... feel brand NEW (after going heaviest I've tried with GoodMornings)... i love them, I think they're my favorite new addition to my arsenal of muscle groups that can take abuse now ”

“I don't need no stinkin' Advil lol ... just got back from Deep Tissue...ahhhhh i'm so relaxed right now... she spent most of the time on my traps and back ... knotted to all hell....”

“Neck today... zero pain... movement not limited ... 100% now, getting DEISEL headaches since the BTN incident... that tells me my stuff is out of wack, big time... oui, those kind of headaches in the back suck.”

“Horrible...shitty sleep. Neck is better... but not 100%... i'd say it's up to 75% ... when it was about a 5% when I hurt it.”

“Thanks man... yeah i'm tryin' my neck is killing me, i can't bend it in certain directions.”

“F^CK! After all the damn BTN talk today... I messed my cervical vertebra up... ugh ... been iceing on and off for a while,”

” Yah i hope so too... i'm streching those bastards in all directions multiple times a day to... i'm lengthing my streching sessions now. And if I'm feeling up to Deads (probably will, lol) I'll HAVE to ice down after and see how that does.

Pain of soreness after lifting... negative, unless i know i lifted with bad form. My erectors are conditioned now so they don't flare up at all... not even with strict GP rows after squats, AND hypers.

Pain or soreness is mostly in the morning upon waking... i think i'm going to have to try to sleep on my back still even with the new bed... Damnit.”

“I'd have to be in agony and not able to walk to get all that done... medical expenses for the year are all ready through the roof

I don't need pain meds... i'm not even taking Ibprophen/Advil..it's not THAT bad, just really..REALLY.. uncomfortable feeling at times.”

“I appreciate the concern... it's a shitty situation. I'm thinking about making icing it 20 on 20 off (2 times) and then see him ASAP (maybe even ice it there) maybe that'll work... or maybe heat to loosen it up?”

“he did yesterday... but my lower back is still locked up (L1-L5) and out of line... via my tight ass muscles being comfortable with the disalignment... and it's been out of whack for so long its' going to take a few tries for him to get it.. he got my neck and middle spine fine.

Doc just wants to give me pain meds and take x-rays (WAY more money than my chiro) ... high deductible insurance... so it's pretty much self pay. ”

“My lower back is fugging killing me today

ughhhhhhhhhhhhh I hate this! Damn spine. I need a replacement”

“DAMNIT... stopped into my chiro real quick... the L's are still being held tightly out of place by my muscles
Cracked the rest of my spine though... feels good, I love it.
And did a pelvis alignment "thingy" this time.... hadn't done it before on me... because my left leg was 1/4 inch longer than the other... now it's only a few milimeters off. And that's most likely the reason for my left knee being aggitated from squating with one leg noticably longer, lol.”

“Thanks! Well it's not my erectors that are benefiting from the bed directly... it's more my spine... my backbones... that got very out of whack before.

My erectors are finally conditioned and don't get so pumped and sore lifting on the spot, it's a beautiful thing really ”

“I need a damn massage... i'm stiff and can feel knots.

My left knee that hasn't been a problem in 7 weeks is now hurting today... not good. Streching morning, noon, and night... may have to make the sessions a little longer and maybe ice tonight too.

And still need to go get L1-L5 lined up ... cervical verts feel outa whack again though too”

“going to do extra squat warm ups ... my left flexor feels super tight.. oh, more streching too”

“Yup... back to my old ways... sleepin on my stomach..it doesn't hurt my back so I can ”

“My new bed kicks ass it's not even funny... didn't want to get out of bed, I think sleeping is my new favorite hobby, lol. And my back feels 75% better... once I get my lower back popped back in line and a full tune up this week i should be waking up with zero back pain for the first time in a LONG time ... i'm looking forward to it!”

“Went to my chiro. a bit ago. Got the full tune up ...neck down to lumbar.

Neck cracked next a few times... niiiiiiiice.
Upper back/Middle back range ... 3 cracks.... omg, feels so good.
Lower back (needs the most) ... OWWWIE ... fucker is too tight to crack, i gotta go back (i've waited way to long to go in to see him).

I was looking at my back in the mirror with a hand held mirror... WHOA... I have erectors that came outa No where!! It looks like a crator, deep divote with the muscle around my spine now... wow. 6 weeks of work, and it's built up like that?!?! Damn. I was shocked... and it makes since why the same old weight belt doesn't fit the same any more prolly a good couple inches of new muscle back there. ya, ya.... I'll take pics when I get tanned up... cuz it's impossible to see contrast when someone's pale as an old irishman.

Took my old mattress and old box spring off the frame... vaccume the nasties living beneath... I'm ready for a new bed ”

“90* Bent Over Row
95x5
115x5
135x5
160x5
185x3 (PR!)
135x8

*Spinal Erectors said nuttin' but a peep... now my spine on the other hand... a little tweaked so gave me some shit throughout the workout, but it was fine otherwise*”

“Exactly... friggin' bed gots a hole in the middle basically. One, large dip/hamocking (sp?) in the matress from my fat ass over the years, lol. and when I sleep face down my back get sucked into the hole when i wander over while i'm sleeping to get comfortable and i wake up like "ahhhh SHIT... " and feelin' like an old man ... That new non-spring matress (not supposed to "hammock"/dip like spring ones over time) better be here friday or ima hurt somebody.”

“STANDING Overhead DB Extention
40x8
50x8
55x5 ... tri's were toooooasted

*Wow my spine felt like it got compressed 3 inches ... maybe I'll do them seated next time, not sure if that'll help... but ever since 5x5 I like doing lifts without using benches, ect.. when i don't have to for my core.*”

“Blah... remember how I was supposed to go to the chiro... what? a week ago? lol

I keep popping my back "in line" as best i can cuz haven't had time to go see him...it's really funked up though... if I can make it over there today and get cracked i'll be a happy camper... i may take an extra day of rest otherwise and not try for PR weights with a crooked, hurting back....”

“I felt like I got ran over by a train... not some much sore... as achy ALL OVER...

Only isolated soreness is my traps... they're blown”

“P.S. My knees are bothering me tonight... more streching for them.
OH and I'm gettin' a new bed finally... hopefully that will help my damn back too.”

“Clean Pulls
190x3
225x3 (HOLY CRAP... lumbars toast... sat down... recooped for awhile... 5 minutes maybe.)”
 
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treilin said:
Hey Sarge :wavey:
I was asked to put some input in your log about your back... so I did some skimmin Well I went back 30 pages and found everything I could on your back... Let's say I have 6 pages in Microsoft Word full of different things connected to your back. I'll copy those in the next post to make your longest thread post ever... :lmao:

Chronic back pain, I saw one note that it’s been at least like this from last spring.

I see you don't have insurance, no x-rays till Jan., you are seeing a chiropractor for some time now, (Sept 17th is as far as I read back) now 2-3 times a week for 4 weeks.
The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.

During that time I see 1 visit to a massage therapist Sept 30th.

Left leg ¼ inch longer then the right, knee issues, lower back locked up L1-L5, list your left flexor in one post as super tight (which one?!?), your cervical vertebrae were put in alignment and only a few days later they were back out of alignment per your posts.

Sleep on hotel beds a lot despite. You enjoy sleeping on your stomach, on your new bed. :evil:

Back is sore in the a.m. some days, gets sore with deads, putting your feet up causes excruciating pain.

One post you said your erectors were conditioned so you don’t get flare ups.. I would negate that thought.

I see one post you don’t need no stinkin advil, honey you need something!!!
Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

You were looking at your back in one mirror thinking whoa where did those erectors come from?!? Yet in another post I do see that your BF was higher then what you wanted. Not trying to downplay all your hard work, but I think your erectors were so constricted that I could palpate them just by looking at them. Not necessarily a good thing to see your erectors in a mirror unless you are really low BF.
Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.


Standing Overhead DB extension felt like compressed your back 3 inches, Do not do those.
I did them once, not again :)

Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. :( Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

-I see you love stretching, lol Well… get used to that also. One stretch I would like to see you add is a psoas release technique. Go to my muscle thread under the Psoas post and it talks about it in there. I incerted some of the stuff about psoas here for you:
Ok, i'll check that one out... if it's the leg bend under a straight leg behind it that comes to mind, i do that one... good stuff

Psoas:
Origin: Bodies of T12 –L4 vertebrae
Insertion: Lesser Trochanter of Femur
Action: Hip Flexion, External Rotation of Femur

-I think Psoas could be one of the many tight muscles you have. But I think it will be tighter on your left side since you have said left side is tighter. What did the chiro say about pelvic alignment? That muscle alone can torque your pelvis. Since your L1-L5 seems to be tight that muscle connects from the T12-L4…
What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."

- The sensation of being centred and grounded comes from a healthy psoas in combination with a balanced weight-bearing pelvis. The keystone of skeletal alignment, it is the balanced pelvis that provides a base of support for the spine, ribcage, neck and head. It is the aligned pelvis that transfers weight down through the hip sockets, legs, knees and feet. If the bones do not support and transfer weight properly, it is the psoas muscle that is called upon to provide structural support.
- Chronic muscular tension, overdeveloped external muscles, and muscular substitutions can be linked to a tense or overworked psoas. Birth anomalies, falls, surgery, overexuberant stretching or weightlifting may create pelvic instability or affect the functioning of the psoas muscle.
- Increased risk of lower back injury during hip extension activities when knees are bent. After complete flexion of the hip, the lumbar spine will flex if movement is continued. The risk of injury is increased if the lumbar spine is not accustom to this movement or workload. Examples of affected exercises: Leg Press , Squat , Single Leg Squat . Example preventative / corrective exercise: Glute Stretch , Adductor Magnus Stretch.
- Back pain, exacerbated by heavy squatting, deadlifting, and lumbar flexion. Pain can limit lumbar spine flexion, reduced hip flexion, range of motion, a hypomobile or 'blocked' sacroiliac joint, possible rotated ilium, and increased muscle tone in TFL/psoas and gluteals.
-I think a chiro and a massage therapist work well together. I am amazed your chiro has not suggested for you to go to a massage therapist to help release the muscles then he can do the spine manipulations easier. I would not allow a chiro to crack my back if it was forced. There are definitely musculature imbalances in your back.
He did reccomend a massage therapist, I go when I can... the massages are about a 2:1 regarding cost, so I can't go all the time... I wish I could :(
Would you go to an auto body detail shop to get your oil changed in your car?!? They both may deal with a car in general but each one specializes in a certain area, it’s the same with massage. A massage therapist specializes in muscles and releasing techniques, a chiro practices getting your bones back into alignment.
I would spend my money on a massage therapist to help get the muscle imbalances back into proportion then visit the chiro.
Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week :(
-As far as lifting any heavy weight bearing activity is only going to debilitate you more. I would focus more on lighter lifting mostly hypers unweighted higher reps followed by stretching. Add in unweighted supermans, opposite hand and knee extension on floor or on a ball, back twisting and breathing exercises, lat, psoas, glutes, hams, TFL, and quad stretches. The stretches every day. Pre-ice the back. If you know you did something to the back as far as lifting a box or etc.. I would automatically ice it, take IBUPROFEN if you think (Quit being stubborn). Does your left knee aggravate you more or your right? Your leg press is affecting your back also!! Your latest post you said you took it all the way down till your knees flared. That automatically puts tension on the low back by flexion. I would not go past 90 with the knees to protect your low back.
left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though :rolleyes: I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
-Until you get X-rays and find out what is jacked with your back I would not recommend doing any sort of heavy lifting with the back. Do you want a disc to slip further? That is your call to make, but as a professional I would highly not recommend it.
- O.k. My 2 cents added, hope that helps!!!
P.S. You asked this in one post
“ wouldn't a pintched nerve be constant pain?
Same with a disc problem?...maybe?”
Pinched nerve you will feel tingling or a numbing sensation. Disc problem varies to what is going on, could be cracked uni or bi, could be slipped, etc..
Yeah, i can't wait to get a view inside there to see what the hell is going on.

I don't get that pain at all anymore.

Thanks for doing this :) It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?

lol... yeah I'd say you've found most of the type ups of my back issues :lmao:
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.
I stand corrected that's what you wrote! but you had pre-existing neck issue before that... I'm thinking due to your sleeping on your stomach :evil:


Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

Ibuprofen helps decrease inflammation in the joint so you can move. I'm not a pill popper myself and I have to be in some pain to buckle down and take a pill.. but ice and ibuprofen together could be your best friend. I'm not a pharmacist nor do I diagnose I 'm just giving you some food for thought on that one.


Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.
Sorry... Constricted, contracted, overly tight... etc. Palpate means to feel the knots or tightness. Saying I can palpate your erectors with my eyes means I can see the over contractility of the erectors I don't even need to touch them. I'm not doubting that you have put back muscle on... All I'm saying is that seeing your erectors stand on end in your back is not necessarily the best thing when you are saying you have a lot of back pain.


Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

Forgot to add it would be better to prop your legs up on pillows to take the tension off the low back also.

What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."
Same thing... So your pelvis is tilted in a certain direction to a certain degree. I was just wondering if you could recall if it was a lateral pelvic tilt which I bet it is.


Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week.
Yes, muscle imbalances can be fixed by a massage therapist. Of course you have to do your part in corrective stretching, strengthening, and posture on your own to help retrain your body, and keep the distortions at bay.


-left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
Shouldn't do what? All I'm saying is if it's a heavy load and you have yet to have x-rays done I would be very cautious as to what you are going to lift which may injure you worse. You only have one back. I know mine is jacked. Till you get x-rays and know what you are dealing with I would definitely not be pushing lots of weight with it. Your pelvis not being alligned correctly can also cause knee issues.


Thanks for doing this It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?
Check your karma... and your welcome.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

The chiro can’t get your lower back to crack. You had a neck issue with GM’s but I read prior to that that you had a pre-existing neck issue.
Neck issues with GM's? I don't recall that... I did however miss catch a Push press behind the neck and banged it up real good, it's find now though.
I stand corrected that's what you wrote! but you had pre-existing neck issue before that... I'm thinking due to your sleeping on your stomach :evil:
Hmm, pre existing before the neck bashing... I have frequent "kinks" for sure from working and having my head tilted down looking at my desk for hours. Chiro always gets a good crack out of my cervical verts. ... bah humbug, lol...this is going to be tough but i'll get back to the my attempt at learning to love sleeping on my back


Why? Does taking it correct the problem? If Taking it helps in the long run I'll take Ibprophen more, but I just don't see the need really... it's not as bad as it used to be by far either.

Ibuprofen helps decrease inflammation in the joint so you can move. I'm not a pill popper myself and I have to be in some pain to buckle down and take a pill.. but ice and ibuprofen together could be your best friend. I'm not a pharmacist nor do I diagnose I 'm just giving you some food for thought on that one.
Ok, I want second guess taking them if I feel it's bothersome then.


Uhh... laymen's terms please? lol what happens with constricted erectors? Palpate?
Maybe i'll take pics just to show you, my old back avatar (green) versus new one... it's much thicker, I did ZERO bent over free weight work and my erectors are built up now... i'll show you.
Sorry... Constricted, contracted, overly tight... etc. Palpate means to feel the knots or tightness. Saying I can palpate your erectors with my eyes means I can see the over contractility of the erectors I don't even need to touch them. I'm not doubting that you have put back muscle on... All I'm saying is that seeing your erectors stand on end in your back is not necessarily the best thing when you are saying you have a lot of back pain.
Ohhhhh, I gotcha.


Summary:
-Sleep: You have to sleep on your back. Don’t use a pillow even roll up a towel just enough for neck support, and get comfy!
Crap. Ok, i'll get back to trying this.

Forgot to add it would be better to prop your legs up on pillows to take the tension off the low back also.

ok, i'll do that... my massuse puts a pillow under my knee area when i'm on my back. Does it matter where the pillow goes? under knee or calves... or just get a pillow somwhere down there?

What did he said about pelvic alignment? He didn't directly say "pelvic alighnment" but I think he said my hips were "off."
Same thing... So your pelvis is tilted in a certain direction to a certain degree. I was just wondering if you could recall if it was a lateral pelvic tilt which I bet it is.
I'll try to remember to ask him Monday. When my feet are "off" (one leg longer) and he "adjusts" my hips the usually even out if that helps you.


Hmmm... so my muscle imbalances can be "fixed" with massages?? I didn't know that. I had pre paid for the month worth of chiropractic work I have a week or 2 left of that. Then it's back to paying per visit. Also, I have to sleep on crappy beds or even a floor next week.
Yes, muscle imbalances can be fixed by a massage therapist. Of course you have to do your part in corrective stretching, strengthening, and posture on your own to help retrain your body, and keep the distortions at bay.
Ok... i'll try to get in to see the massuse monthly at least.


-left knee issue is no longer, I've fixed my seating in my car and clutching knee is good now. Those did not aggrevate my back though I'm getting SO MUCH information, I should do this, no do that... ect... wtf... i don't know wtf to do anymore. If it doesn't bother my back, you're saying I shouldn't do it?
Shouldn't do what? All I'm saying is if it's a heavy load and you have yet to have x-rays done I would be very cautious as to what you are going to lift which may injure you worse. You only have one back. I know mine is jacked. Till you get x-rays and know what you are dealing with I would definitely not be pushing lots of weight with it. Your pelvis not being alligned correctly can also cause knee issues.
*sigh* yah, i understand. this sucks.


Thanks for doing this It's always good to get another perspective. Who put you up to this so I can thank them?
Check your karma... and your welcome.
Thank you again :)

Did you by chance see the t-nation article on "neanderthal no more" ? If so, what are your thoughts on that? (i'm sure i buthered the spelling, my firefox doesn't do it auto like at work sadly, i need to look into that, lol)


{just got back from the 2 hour gym muscle glycogen destruction workout. I'm not expecting rave reviews, lol. Typing it up now. I'm taking a few extra days off before starting up the next week anyway.}
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

food today so far:
pre workout: Whey and juice

now PWO: Whey and water.

11.24.2006
Friday


Sugar, PureCEE, Sodium and other misc stuff guided superhuman pump workout... my forearms felt like they were 18" lol....

Zero Rest Until T-bar, then paced.. then Arm stuff I sped it up as much as I could but the pump was ridiculous.


12:30pm

Decline DB: 65's x 15, 75's x8, 80's x 6
CGBP: 95x10, 135x7
Cable Cross Over's: #30 x 8, #40 x8
T-bar Row: 45x15, 70x10, 90x10, 135x6
BTN Lat Pull Down: 100x12, 110x10, 120x11, 140x8
DB Shrugs: 80's for 20, 90's for 15, 105's for 12
BTN Push Press: 95x10, 115x8, 135x6*
*These felt really smooth with a pumped and tight back
French Press: 35x15, 55x8, 75x6
Alt'ing DB Hammer: 30's for 11, 35's for 8, 40's for 6
DB Front & Side Raises: 20's for 20, 25's for 20
supersetted:
Cable V Press Downs: 100x15, 110x12, 120x10, 150x8
Cable Curls: 100x15, 110x12, 120x10, 150x8

A few random dips
BW Hypers: x8, x8

10 minutes treadmill walk @ 3.6 speed

Streching gallore.

2:30pm

And now I have a kink in my mid-upper back that's bugging the crap outa me.

I don't enjoy the pump workouts as much as I used to at all.

Low reps are more enjoyable for me now.

OH, and Bodyweight Post liquid release this morning right outa bed was:
218.5lbs

wtf is right. all that food, ect... I'm real watery looking but not as bloated as I thought I'd be. I kept up with my Sesapure and GlucR last night... and AIFM helped without a doubt i'm sure... last time I ate like that without the supplements I was almost 230... and felt like ass, my BP was probably through the roof :rolleyes:

221.0 lbs @ the gym
 
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Way to, uh, kill that shit and stuff.

sgtslaughter said:
I don't enjoy the pump workouts as much as I used to at all.

Low reps are more enjoyable for me now.
lol, that's probably the little voice in your head saying "where's the plan/progression/PR?"

Is this mid-upper "kink" a new trouble spot for your back?
 
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Cynical Simian said:
Way to, uh, kill that shit and stuff.
lol, that's probably the little voice in your head saying "where's the plan/progression/PR?"
Is this mid-upper "kink" a new trouble spot for your back?
lol.

No, it's not a "new" trouble spot. It'll line itself up... or i'll have to run into a wall backwards to make it :rolleyes:
 
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Ok. Epiphany time. (wow i need spell check, i know that's not right)

I've come to the realization how truely gheigh that 'workout' was, And I should have just used that fuel for a PR setting workout.

My chest is sore, sadly... from failure at 135x7 after the other work.

Will let it heal for 1 or 2 days then it's back to 5 reps this week after hitting a single last time.

I went out last night with some old high school buddies for the first time in years (4 or 5). Had a great time... topped off the night around 2am with a bunch of greasy food. Apparently my friend had never seen anyone eat 2 #3's (double Q.P's) from McD's before either. I was glad to show a 150lber what it takes to be 220, lol :rolleyes:

Tonight i'm keeping the food going, I'm feeling Chinese.


It's all about the numbers, right now.

I'm out of state next week to spend time with my grandfather (79) & great aunt (92)... it's not good :Pope:
 
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As a Michigan fan, I can't decide who I should be rooting for USC or ND. I'm thinking ND since the Wolverines beat them up as badly as they did, won't allow them to leap frog Michigan. If USC wins, they would have to lose to UCLA next week to get knocked out of the NC game with Ohio State.
 
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Don't beat yourself up too much about the pump-fest. You got it out of your system, and now you know with a bit more certainty that you prefer the new training approach to the old one. And the soreness probably isn't that big of a deal, at least in the sense of being a sign that the workout will hamper your progress. It probably wasn't as much due to going to failure as to doing a bit more volume than, and some different movements from, what you're used to.

I must admit that I don't understand some of your "unclean" food choices. If you're going to eat at restaurants, even at 2 a.m., at least pick something better than McDonald's (like that Chinese food you'll have tonight). ;)
 
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TSO#2:
lol, I don't follow college ball enough to converse about standings. I enjoy competition and the great ball that some of the teams play. Half the time I don't know which channel to watch cuz there are too many games on :rolleyes:

Yesterday's LSU vs. Ark, the returns they were making at the end were ridiculous.. and the almost 99 yard return was awesome.

CS:
No beating up, just posting for the sake of logging :artist: Ok, that's good to hear... hampered progress wouldn't be good.

There aren't many choices at 2am where I live, fast food is the only 24hr/late night option... it hit the spot at the time :) sober, I despise that crap, lol.
 
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al420 said:
That is gospel brotha. Save the "mind blowing pumps" for the bedroom!
Nothing bad about setting PRs in the bedroom eh?

Sup b1tch3s
 
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*Bunny* said:
Nothing bad about setting PRs in the bedroom eh?

Sup b1tch3s
yeah... mind blowing forearm pumps, woohoo :rolleyes: lol

Sup Pimpdezzie?!

No chinese tonight... hittin up japanese steak house tomorrow.

tonight throwin' some steak on the grizzile.. may get some pizza later.
 
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Wow Treil had a very informative post up in here. :) Thought some insight from an experienced therapist may be helpful :)
 
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sgtslaughter said:
ok, i'll do that... my massuse puts a pillow under my knee area when i'm on my back. Does it matter where the pillow goes? under knee or calves... or just get a pillow somwhere down there?
Pillows under the knees, could even do 2 if you like.


sgtslaughter said:
Did you by chance see the t-nation article on "neanderthal no more" ? If so, what are your thoughts on that? (i'm sure i buthered the spelling, my firefox doesn't do it auto like at work sadly, i need to look into that, lol)[/B][/COLOR]

No I haven't I'll check it out. I think it's an overall stretching and strengthening and a muscle imbalance corrective program, if I recall right I'll check it out when I get some time....
I think any 1 program in itself is not ideal for everyone. Everyone has their own bodily imbalances. I think if you go to your chiro, or masseuse and ask them which muscles are overly tight which ones are weak (They should be able to tell you no problem). Write those down and what you do is make sure to do extra stretching on the tight and strengtheing on the weaker ones. Like I told Shadow in his log. He is dealing with rhomboid issues. Well usually most people feel the pain in the weakest link. So for instance I told him to stretch his Pecs (overy tight) and then go and do high rows to strengthen the rhomboids (weakest link, and antagonist to the pecs). Your case with back issues you could do ab strengthening followed by your back stretching.
Make a list of your muscles, then identify which ones are there antagonists, and you have your own work-out plan to fix your personal imbalances without going to a whole bodily plan. This gives you more time to do the things you like to do in the gym, while simultaneoulsy fixing your own issues.
 
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thesuaveone said:
As a Michigan fan, I can't decide who I should be rooting for USC or ND. I'm thinking ND since the Wolverines beat them up as badly as they did, won't allow them to leap frog Michigan. If USC wins, they would have to lose to UCLA next week to get knocked out of the NC game with Ohio State.
Dude....UM had their friggn chance....give it a rest..........OSU will stomp the living crap out of USC in 45 days......can't wait!
 
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treilin said:
Pillows under the knees, could even do 2 if you like.
No I haven't I'll check it out. I think it's an overall stretching and strengthening and a muscle imbalance corrective program, if I recall right I'll check it out when I get some time....
I think any 1 program in itself is not ideal for everyone. Everyone has their own bodily imbalances. I think if you go to your chiro, or masseuse and ask them which muscles are overly tight which ones are weak (They should be able to tell you no problem). Write those down and what you do is make sure to do extra stretching on the tight and strengtheing on the weaker ones. Like I told Shadow in his log. He is dealing with rhomboid issues. Well usually most people feel the pain in the weakest link. So for instance I told him to stretch his Pecs (overy tight) and then go and do high rows to strengthen the rhomboids (weakest link, and antagonist to the pecs). Your case with back issues you could do ab strengthening followed by your back stretching.
Make a list of your muscles, then identify which ones are there antagonists, and you have your own work-out plan to fix your personal imbalances without going to a whole bodily plan. This gives you more time to do the things you like to do in the gym, while simultaneoulsy fixing your own issues.
Of course :) But if there are some streches in there you think I could benefit from whenever you have a chance to check it out, let me know :)

I try to keep my abs tight all the time, helps with my posture & lower back. I think not training abs consistantly and building up my spinal erectors had something to do with the current issues.

I'm just doing decline crunches right now a couple times a week. My lower back hurts some times when on the decline at the bottom of the movement though.

Glutes and hamstrings are wicked tight... I do a bunch of streches for them to try and keep them loose. My hammys are still killing me from doing the box SLDL's damn those were rough (that was 4 days ago).... I don't have full strech ROM back yet because they're so dang tight and hurtin'.

Strech, Strech, Strech i guess, eh.

{typing up workout now}
 
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Week 4 Day 1
11.26.2006
Sunday Bloody Sunday...


12:30pm

Close Grip Bench Press: Barx10, 95x5, 135x5, 155x5, 170x5, 185x5*
*I'm glad I went with 185, i almost went with something lower cuz i'm a meatball, lol

Dips: BWx7, Bwx7, BWx8
WOOHOO!!! Time to add weight to these B1tch3s !!!!1111!!!

French Press: 35x8, 65x8, 80x8

1:07pm

supersetted:
Decline Crunches: Bwx8, x8
streches&
Hypers: x8, x8 ...
i should add weight to these, I could do these all day... or maybe not add weight cuz that's the problem too strong, and too weak in front.

Streches, streches gallore...

Cardio: 7 minutes on tread @ 3.4-3.8 speed
Had to stop cuz my shin muscles got so pumped they hurt... pain in the ass.

more streching


DAMNIT!! Patriots on tonight... pushing forward the Japanese steak house fest... pizza tonight maybe :evil:

I've been eating like a semi-asshole still and my weight hasn't budged, lol... I think i've plateaued :) In a good way... I can eat more :chomp:
 
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sgtslaughter said:
DAMNIT!! Patriots on tonight... pushing forward the Japanese steak house fest... pizza tonight maybe :evil:

I've been eating like a semi-asshole still and my weight hasn't budged, lol... I think i've plateaued :) In a good way... I can eat more :chomp:
I do not think your weight is something you should be using to gauge your progress. What is your body fat?

I will hurt you if you eat pizza.
 
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*Bunny* said:
I do not think your weight is something you should be using to gauge your progress. What is your body fat?

I will hurt you if you eat pizza.
Ya, ya... I'm just saying :rolleyes:

It's not bad at all... i'd be bitching if it was :p

bring on the whip then, woman :evil:
 
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I haven't posted my supplementation in awhile, so here is what I use currently:

AIFM - 1 spray per day (a day off every couple weeks)
PureCEE - 5 smurf caplets pre training
SesaPure - 1 or 2 as needed
Gluc_R - pre meals as needed
Vit-C 1g per tab - up to 3 or 4 daily
B-100 - 1 or 2 a day
Multi vitamin - 4 spread through the day
Flax oil caps - 3 per day (1.2 grams each)
OxyCalm - as needed
ECA (25/200/325) - 1 per day as needed
Green Tea (occasionally for it's antioxidant properties)
 
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sgtslaughter said:
Of course :) But if there are some streches in there you think I could benefit from whenever you have a chance to check it out, let me know :)

I try to keep my abs tight all the time, helps with my posture & lower back. I think not training abs consistantly and building up my spinal erectors had something to do with the current issues.

I'm just doing decline crunches right now a couple times a week. My lower back hurts some times when on the decline at the bottom of the movement though.

Glutes and hamstrings are wicked tight... I do a bunch of streches for them to try and keep them loose. My hammys are still killing me from doing the box SLDL's damn those were rough (that was 4 days ago).... I don't have full strech ROM back yet because they're so dang tight and hurtin'.

Strech, Strech, Strech i guess, eh.

{typing up workout now}
I have uissues w/decline ab work as well. My lower back feels like it wants 2 lock up and it's hard to breathe through it. Just make sure to keep your back as flat to the bench as possible, and maybe do 3/4 of the ROM instead if it becomes an issue.
I'll check out that T-nation article and let ya know.
 
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back on all the supps again after a long absence huh?

what weight you thinking about adding to your dips? rep scheme 5??

nice win yesterday brutha...wish i can say the same.
 
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Treilin said:
I have issues w/decline ab work as well. My lower back feels like it wants 2 lock up and it's hard to breathe through it. Just make sure to keep your back as flat to the bench as possible, and maybe do 3/4 of the ROM instead if it becomes an issue.
I'll check out that T-nation article and let ya know.
Yeah, Exactly... felt tight and I almost got immobilized one time from it locking up i guess and i just dropped down. I tried 3/4 and 1/4 reps but mixed them in with full ROM last time... i'll try strictly 3/4 reps next time and hope that goes better :)
Lower is killing me today (taking some Ibpro.), tried to sleep on my back...after laying there for 2 hours, i gave up... chiro appt scheduled for 12pm.

jpt said:
back on all the supps again after a long absence huh?
what weight you thinking about adding to your dips? rep scheme 5??
nice win yesterday brutha...wish i can say the same.
Na, not really... I did take a straight 10 days off AIFM a couple weeks back. And a month or two ago I didn't take much for a few weeks...that's about it though. The supp. that's relatively new is the ECA stack.

Probably 5 or 10lbs yeah for 5 reps... build up to 8 reps then add weight and back down to 5 reps.

Thanks, yeah... Pats and Colts played a great game, intense. I'm pissed at NY too...wtf?! They had it and let it go :rolleyes:
 
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plexico should seriously be cut....the guy gives up on every play. and there are several defensive players that should be cut as well...only problem is they have no other backups b/c of injuries. don't even want to get started on eli...the guy is a joke...couldn't hit water if he fell off a boat
 
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sgtslaughter said:
Yeah, Exactly... felt tight and I almost got immobilized one time from it locking up i guess and i just dropped down. I tried 3/4 and 1/4 reps but mixed them in with full ROM last time... i'll try strictly 3/4 reps next time and hope that goes better :)
Lower is killing me today (taking some Ibpro.), tried to sleep on my back...after laying there for 2 hours, i gave up... chiro appt scheduled for 12pm.


Na, not really... I did take a straight 10 days off AIFM a couple weeks back. And a month or two ago I didn't take much for a few weeks...that's about it though. The supp. that's relatively new is the ECA stack.

Probably 5 or 10lbs yeah for 5 reps... build up to 8 reps then add weight and back down to 5 reps.

Thanks, yeah... Pats and Colts played a great game, intense. I'm pissed at NY too...wtf?! They had it and let it go :rolleyes:

I know it is really hard to sleep on your back, trust me, but I have found it has helped a lot, especially with my shoulders as well. Takes a lot to get used to, I still am, have you tried putting a pillow underneath your knees?
 
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yup.. i'm not expecting it to be over easily in one night, lol... just showing u all that i'm trying it.

I was too damn hot too last night, i had to open the window to let some 30* air in... that was much better.
 
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sgtslaughter said:
yup.. i'm not expecting it to be over easily in one night, lol... just showing u all that i'm trying it.

I was too damn hot too last night, i had to open the window to let some 30* air in... that was much better.


HOT, it is -25 here! I had four blankets on!
 
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I stick my tongue out at both of you LOL! oh well, skiiing and snowmobiling here we come!
 
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lucky asses!!! There was 6 inches of snow here overnight, I have to take the bus to the gym :(
 
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ZGzaZ said:
lucky asses!!! There was 6 inches of snow here overnight, I have to take the bus to the gym :(

We have around 7inches of snow here, and i heard there is almost 2 feet in chelan. I was gonna sneak away to my summer home, but sounds likes its worse there :worried:
 
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*Logging*

Chiropractor even wants x-rays now... he said they'd be "a hundred," that sounds fine, it's the $300+ for a M.D. appt and all the other crap that would have been way too much... I may get them soon. Good thing.

I have that Japanese steakhouse dinner around 4pm.

Week 4 Day 2 is today - t-bar, so i'll have some great sodium and carb infused lifting later... haven't eaten much today so that'll be needed :rolleyes:

I have an appt for Intro #2 at Dojo, but that's not going to happen... gotta call them up.
 
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sgtslaughter said:
Chiropractor even wants x-rays now... I am going to make it a point to get them done ASAP.. I am calling right now to figure out all the details since that is a MAIN priority.
:heart:
 
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ck2006 said:
I stick my tongue out at both of you LOL! oh well, skiiing and snowmobiling here we come!
It's 8 here today. S'posed to be 14 on Wednesday.
 
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Sarge,
What's up with the weather info. in your thread? Are you going to have a bake sale thread here next week? LOL.......

I hope your doing well. Keep doing what you need to do!
 
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FFQuads said:
Sarge,
What's up with the weather info. in your thread? Are you going to have a bake sale thread here next week? LOL.......
I hope your doing well. Keep doing what you need to do!

FF... lol, bro... you didn't get the PM?

You're on the list as the one bringin' the Dbol jello puddin' :p

Thanks man! Likewise.
 
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sgtslaughter said:
FF... lol, bro... you didn't get the PM?

You're on the list as the one bringin' the Dbol jello puddin' :p

Thanks man! Likewise.


I just made hamburgers for the first time ever!
 
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Week 4 Day 2
11.27.2006
Monday


8:20pm

T-Bar Row: 90x5, 115x5, 125x5, 150x5 (PR)
Hammer Low Row: 90x8, 180x8, 280x8 (PR)
Chins: BWx3, BWx2.5 ... lol
BTN Lat Pull Downs: 110x8, 130x8, 150x8 (PR)
DB Hammers: 35's x8, 40's x8, 45's x8

Decline sit ups... 3, three-quater reps... pain.... went back after a set ^^^ and 1 3/4 rep and sharp shooting pain that scared the crap outa me... I hoped off that thing so friggin' fast... fuckin' a.

9:00pm

Cardio: 8 minutes treadmill ~ 3.0 speed.... damn hamstrings are wound up tighter than my crazy Aunt Louise :rolleyes:

Streching, streching streching.
 
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*Bunny* said:
Nice job on the PR's.... so when's the xray :heart:
:) Thanks! I think they're all PR's i'd have to go through my old log or written journal when i was doing some of these lifts.

the chiro isn't in today.

I'll call tomorrow for details, promise.

Back feels good today :heart:

I want to go back to bed, wtf... lol
 
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sgtslaughter said:
*Logging*

Chiropractor even wants x-rays now... he said they'd be "a hundred," that sounds fine, it's the $300+ for a M.D. appt and all the other crap that would have been way too much... I may get them soon. Good thing.
Waiting ;)
 
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Great job on the PR's!!!

!!!GO SARGE GO!!!














PS.... no cheese for you! LOL
 
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i have left over smoked mozz in my fridge...not sure hwat i should do with it lol. shit was expensive too so i don't wanna just throw it out.

nice pr's sarge! keep doing them pull ups...you'll get better eventually
 
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K it's your turn!!! I just went and had my back X-rays done and thought about you!
Took me not even 20 minutes, undressed, in gown, rayed, dressed, back out the door!
 
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treilin said:
K it's your turn!!! I just went and had my back X-rays done and thought about you!
Took me not even 20 minutes, undressed, in gown, rayed, dressed, back out the door!
lucky machine! :heart:
 
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I bet it feels good to be setting PRs again.

Could you describe what your form looks like on those decline sit-ups? Are you arching your back a lot (i.e. essentially doing a wrestler's bridge to touch your upper back to the bench on the descent)?

Also, as an alternative to full decline sit-ups, give Needsize's exercise a try.
 
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Yeah it does... I'm pretty sure they're PR's. I'm not positive... i did go back and find that i was only doing 120x8 on Lat pull downs before... i didn't find any previous T-bar rowing yet.

Form is tight. Abs tight... no, not arched and still pain.

Ok, i'll have to look them up :) Thanks.
 
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Week 4 Day 4
11.29.2006
Hump Day


6:05pm

(2nd Bench Day - lighter)
Close Grip Bench Press: Barx10, 120x8, 145x8, 175x8

BTN Push Press: Barx8, 115x5, 135x5, 160x5

DB Decline Bench: 65's for 8, 75's for 8, 85's for 5
... wtf??? weird, my chest would not press anymore... It wasn't failure or exhaustion, it was very odd. I hit 85's for 8 last time, hard but i did it :whatever:

*Fluff Section*

Front & Side Raise Complex: 25's x12, 20's x 10 or 12, lost count

DB Upright Row: 30's for 8, 35's for 8, 40's for 5

Seated:
Arnolds's: 30's for 5, 35's for 8
DB Military press: 40's for 5, 50's fo r5, 55's for 5
(not so fluff and should have done these exclusively instead I realized after, lol)

10 minutes treadmill

Ant. Delt Rev. Pec Deck on Swiss ball with nuetral grip :rolleyes: lol:
3 sets, LOL! oh man... don't ask, it was a good workout.

7:10pm
 
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sgtslaughter said:
Week 4 Day 4
11.29.2006
Hump Day


6:05pm

(2nd Bench Day - lighter)
Close Grip Bench Press: Barx10, 120x8, 145x8, 175x8

BTN Push Press: Barx8, 115x5, 135x5, 160x5

DB Decline Bench: 65's for 8, 75's for 8, 85's for 5
... wtf??? weird, my chest would not press anymore... It wasn't failure or exhaustion, it was very odd. I hit 85's for 8 last time, hard but i did it :whatever:

*Fluff Section*

Front & Side Raise Complex: 25's x12, 20's x 10 or 12, lost count

DB Upright Row: 30's for 8, 35's for 8, 40's for 5

Seated:
Arnolds's: 30's for 5, 35's for 8
DB Military press: 40's for 5, 50's fo r5, 55's for 5
(not so fluff and should have done these exclusively instead I realized after, lol)

10 minutes treadmill

Ant. Delt Rev. Pec Deck on Swiss ball with nuetral grip :rolleyes: lol:
3 sets, LOL! oh man... don't ask, it was a good workout.

7:10pm
:lmao:
 
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