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Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The_Future said:
After 5-6 pm keeping carbs totally gone.



....myth actually.



As long as total cals are maint. or below on the days average....later in the day meals have no effect on metabolism. I can post up that study if anyone wants to see it


Dropping carbs that early is devastating for thos who train late in the day - and as you know lower carbs = lower thyroid output = greater catabolism
.....supplementation makes a difference though
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

sbt2082 said:
That doesn't look like the food I sent for todays meals :lmao: :evil:


(Just kidding with ya.... :heart: )
Yeah yeah yeah... it's pretty close! That's what I have been doing up to this point to add another % of tubbiness on to me LOL I need to figure out what tape did...
D@mn I need to get to work now peeps I'm going to be so in trouble...
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The Shadow said:
....myth actually.



As long as total cals are maint. or below on the days average....later in the day meals have no effect on metabolism. I can post up that study if anyone wants to see it


Dropping carbs that early is devastating for thos who train late in the day - and as you know lower carbs = lower thyroid output = greater catabolism
.....supplementation makes a difference though

Not a myth actually.
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The Shadow said:
....myth actually.



As long as total cals are maint. or below on the days average....later in the day meals have no effect on metabolism. I can post up that study if anyone wants to see it


Dropping carbs that early is devastating for thos who train late in the day - and as you know lower carbs = lower thyroid output = greater catabolism
.....supplementation makes a difference though
Yes post up!! :heart: You know me and my :nerd:
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The Shadow said:
I can post up that study if anyone wants to see it


Dropping carbs that early is devastating for thos who train late in the day - and as you know lower carbs = lower thyroid output = greater catabolism
.....supplementation makes a difference though

And yes, if someone trains late you still need your PWO carbs. Sort of a common sense rule. But everything else after 5-6 pm on a normal schedule should be fibrous carbs if at all.
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

here is an exerpt referencing the study.....lemme see if I can find the raw data

Q: Can eating late in the evening make me fat?



A: Only if those calories are excess ones — which would more likely be the case for someone with a slow metabolism. Typical advice would be to avoid late-night eating and modify your carbohydrate intake later in the day. However, recent research would indicate that when you eat won’t change how much fat you put on. It’s like this: your body needs a certain amount of calories per day to be able to grow in response to your training. You feed your body that amount, irrespective of the time of day, and you’ll do fine. You feed your body less and you’ll get smaller, more and you’ll get bigger, and if you overdo it you could get fat.


http://www.muscle-fitness.co.uk/523.html
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

The_Future said:
But everything else after 5-6 pm on a normal schedule should be fibrous carbs if at all.

Im not arguing with you......its simply a myth about eating ANY FOODS late at night as long as total cals are maintained.
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

I'm not talking any foods though. I would say protein and some fats...maybe the fibrous carbs. I see where you are coming from. Sure you want to keep your caloric goals in mind.
 
Re: Treils 2006 Competition Log

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/116/112113.htm


Facts About Evening Eating

Over the years, De Castro's research into meal sizes, meal patterns, and calorie distribution has turned up some other findings about evening eating:

Meal size tends to increase over the day, with peaks at lunch and dinner. One study showed that participants ate 42% of their total daily calories during and after dinner.
Our evening food intake tends to be relatively high in fat, compared to that at earlier meals.
The longer the gap between dinner and the previous meal or snack, the larger the dinner. Interestingly, the gap between meals is a significant predictor of meal size for dinner only.
People who eat lightly at night end up eating fewer calories and grams of fat overall than people who eat big dinners and nighttime snacks. According to the results of one study, people who had a light snack at night ate 9.3% fewer total calories and 10% less fat overall than those who ate larger nighttime snacks.


Obesity expert Edward Saltzman, MD, thinks the real problem is not so much that we burn fewer calories at night, but that nighttime eating tends to result from unhealthy meal patterns
 
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