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pullup problems question

kgarto

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Ok, so I've put on about 12 pounds in the last 2 weeks, and it's making my pullups fall short of the rep range I want to be in. Should I do pulldowns until things equalize a bit, or struggle through low rep pullup sets?
 
I agree with booey. Even if you can only do a few, it will be much more beneficial than doing a whole lot of pulldowns.

I also have a pull-up related question. I have recently realized that my back is quite out of proportion in comparison to my chest. Someone told me recently on these forums that I should be able to row (with good form) just about as much as I bench, and I simply am not at that level. I have been practicing pull-ups just to get better at them for a few days now, and I feel like when I do a wide grip pull up immediately my forearms come together and my body goes away from the bar...imagine a reverse curl position while hanging from the bar. When I finish the set I don't feel it that much in my back at all. Is this because my chest is trying to compensate for the imbalance?
 
mojaz87 said:
I agree with booey. Even if you can only do a few, it will be much more beneficial than doing a whole lot of pulldowns.

I also have a pull-up related question. I have recently realized that my back is quite out of proportion in comparison to my chest. Someone told me recently on these forums that I should be able to row (with good form) just about as much as I bench, and I simply am not at that level. I have been practicing pull-ups just to get better at them for a few days now, and I feel like when I do a wide grip pull up immediately my forearms come together and my body goes away from the bar...imagine a reverse curl position while hanging from the bar. When I finish the set I don't feel it that much in my back at all. Is this because my chest is trying to compensate for the imbalance?

Actually, you should row about 80% of your bench. Doing the exact same isn't likely to happen. The hardest portion of the exercises are at different points, and you have a natural advantage with the bench.

Wide grip does nothing a narrow grip won't do. Stop doing them with a pronated (overhand) grip, do them supinated (underhand). Do them just inside shoulder width so your elbows come to your sides as you do the pullup. This maximally recruits the biceps by giving them the best line of pull which makes the exercise more effective.

Your chest has nothing to do with a pullup. Put down the crack pipe.

Learn to draw your shoulder blades back and pull yourself up with your back lats. You shouldn't really be going straight up and down. As you raise, you'll more than likely want to try pulling your chest into the bar so you're like this: /

Try to think about your arms being hooks, just holding you on. Your back does the really movement. The arms can eek out the last bit of the rep, but let the back do the majority, as it's supposed to. When I learned this, I found I was able to do chinups with a lot more weight than I had previously mustered. Mmm mustard.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Your chest has nothing to do with a pullup. Put down the crack pipe.

I appreciate the advice, but this was totally unnecessary. I was simply asking a question and trying to relay as much information as I could about what was happening when I performed the exercise. I don't know if you feel this type of comment is humorous or that you're a pretty witty guy, but neither is the case. That type of statement is something I would expect from a middle schooler or somebody like ILikeToLift. My point was that I didn't feel I was incorporating my back into the exercise the way I should and instead I feel tight in the chest after doing chinups(I realize that the pull up is not a chest exercise) I like to use a variety of grips, whether pronated or supinated (you're not the only one on EF who knows what these mean...), wide or narrow. Nevertheless thanks for the advice, but your tone really detracted from its value. This forum is about helping other members when they have trouble so that someone will help you if you happen to need it later on. Lately, it seems people have forgotten that and the forum is quickly deteriorating into a bashfest because certain people think they know everything after reading the cliffnotes to an outdated kinesiology book.
 
kgarto said:
Ok, so I've put on about 12 pounds in the last 2 weeks, and it's making my pullups fall short of the rep range I want to be in. Should I do pulldowns until things equalize a bit, or struggle through low rep pullup sets?
why not just do supersets of pullups followed by pulldowns?
say if you get like 5 pullups, do a weight you can get 5 pulldowns with- immediately. i even like to do this after a set of 12-15 pullups and follow up immediately with the pulldowns just to up the intensity level. 3 sets like that will tax your lats.
 
no need to do that IMO...

a pulldown does not even begin to give you the functional strength of a pullup...

personally i'd say do as many as you can, and when you cannot reach your number, do a few negatives until you hit your rep number you want...
 
mojaz87 said:
I appreciate the advice, but this was totally unnecessary. I was simply asking a question and trying to relay as much information as I could about what was happening when I performed the exercise. I don't know if you feel this type of comment is humorous or that you're a pretty witty guy, but neither is the case. That type of statement is something I would expect from a middle schooler or somebody like ILikeToLift. My point was that I didn't feel I was incorporating my back into the exercise the way I should and instead I feel tight in the chest after doing chinups(I realize that the pull up is not a chest exercise) I like to use a variety of grips, whether pronated or supinated (you're not the only one on EF who knows what these mean...), wide or narrow. Nevertheless thanks for the advice, but your tone really detracted from its value. This forum is about helping other members when they have trouble so that someone will help you if you happen to need it later on. Lately, it seems people have forgotten that and the forum is quickly deteriorating into a bashfest because certain people think they know everything after reading the cliffnotes to an outdated kinesiology book.

Oh boohoo, did I hurt your fucking feelings? Too bad. You complain about it sounding like a comment from a middle schooler, and I'll retort by saying your big block of text (break it up a bit, jesus christ) is obnoxious and that you need to butch the fuck up. How's that for "detracting" from the value of my post?

By the way, my posts are so awesome, they're worth millions. That's value for ya'.

I don't think I know everything. I know that I know everything. :FRlol:

Nothing I read came from a kinesiology book. I've never even opened one. Oh well. :) You shouldn't talk though, Mr. "chest getting involved in the pullup and taking away from the back muscles".
 
DZLS said:
no need to do that IMO...

a pulldown does not even begin to give you the functional strength of a pullup...

personally i'd say do as many as you can, and when you cannot reach your number, do a few negatives until you hit your rep number you want...

Negatives are good if you can't do regular reps. If you can't do them you can also use an assisted machine or do pulldowns until you build the muscle strength do do pullups.

Sorry, that whole shit about pulldowns not doing anything is wrong. The muscle will still be developed with pulldowns and as you get stronger on them, you can switch to pullups/chinups.
 
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