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ghettostudmuffin
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I whole heartedly agree with you thatbloke and stevesmi.
It's about fucking time people realized this shit is all marketing propoganda.
I'm natural atm and I easily get 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight and I work an extremely physical job plus workout 3x a week and I still fart all the time. It's undigested protein.
When I was on 500mg test I could eat every thing in sight and down 75grams of protein shakes and rarely fart. This supports the belief that aas rapidly increases protein utilization.
I agree that eating whole foods is superior to whey shakes by a large margin. I personally drink ALOT of milk. I also try to eat tuna every day and I eat alot of eggs. All 3 are excellent sources of real protein and for me I have no trouble taking in large amounts of any of them.
I used to drink 3 whey shakes a day. I'm down to 2 and looking for ways to cut that down to 1 while natural. If I was on I would probably drink 2-3 each day just to spike my protein up in addition to the food moreso than now.
From my own experience I've come to learn the power of carbs and fats in relation to gaining size and muscle. Both are easy to consume in large quantities and both are what is really responsible for creating the anabolic environment. You could eat 400grams protein a day, but if you need 4500 to grow, but only take in 3000 then you aren't taking in enough carbs and fats. Fats are beneficial to the joints and hormones and carbs supply energy and fill the muscles full of glycogen. Both are very important.
As a decent example of just how important they are incomparison to protein I'll use myself as an example. Last time I was on cycle using 500mg test ew I ran really low on funds for a week and completely ran out of protein powder. I'm kind of embarrassed to say that for a week I basically lived off cheese sandwiches, pb+j sandwiches and milk. That's literally all I ate. I would eat around 2 of each kind of sandwich each day always with a large glass of milk. Generally around 5 sandwiches every day.
I did this for a week. I know I wasn't getting 1 gram protein per pound of bodyweight. I was getting "adequate" protein. Probably around 150grams per day. What I was getting plenty of was carbs and fats.
At the end of the week I had actually gained 2 pounds and felt strong as ever in the gym despite being under supposedly optimal protein intake levels, while "on" for that matter because my carb and fat intake was plenty high.
At least that's my take on it.
It's about fucking time people realized this shit is all marketing propoganda.
I'm natural atm and I easily get 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight and I work an extremely physical job plus workout 3x a week and I still fart all the time. It's undigested protein.
When I was on 500mg test I could eat every thing in sight and down 75grams of protein shakes and rarely fart. This supports the belief that aas rapidly increases protein utilization.
I agree that eating whole foods is superior to whey shakes by a large margin. I personally drink ALOT of milk. I also try to eat tuna every day and I eat alot of eggs. All 3 are excellent sources of real protein and for me I have no trouble taking in large amounts of any of them.
I used to drink 3 whey shakes a day. I'm down to 2 and looking for ways to cut that down to 1 while natural. If I was on I would probably drink 2-3 each day just to spike my protein up in addition to the food moreso than now.
From my own experience I've come to learn the power of carbs and fats in relation to gaining size and muscle. Both are easy to consume in large quantities and both are what is really responsible for creating the anabolic environment. You could eat 400grams protein a day, but if you need 4500 to grow, but only take in 3000 then you aren't taking in enough carbs and fats. Fats are beneficial to the joints and hormones and carbs supply energy and fill the muscles full of glycogen. Both are very important.
As a decent example of just how important they are incomparison to protein I'll use myself as an example. Last time I was on cycle using 500mg test ew I ran really low on funds for a week and completely ran out of protein powder. I'm kind of embarrassed to say that for a week I basically lived off cheese sandwiches, pb+j sandwiches and milk. That's literally all I ate. I would eat around 2 of each kind of sandwich each day always with a large glass of milk. Generally around 5 sandwiches every day.
I did this for a week. I know I wasn't getting 1 gram protein per pound of bodyweight. I was getting "adequate" protein. Probably around 150grams per day. What I was getting plenty of was carbs and fats.
At the end of the week I had actually gained 2 pounds and felt strong as ever in the gym despite being under supposedly optimal protein intake levels, while "on" for that matter because my carb and fat intake was plenty high.
At least that's my take on it.
