Protein Intake Amounts and When

[1longdong]

Age 34
6’1”
200lbs
Bench 305
Squat 300
Dead 350

I have been lifting for about 12 years but have never really kept up with my protein intake. I assumed I was always getting more than I needed for growth. Now that I have actually started tracking it I see that I have never been close to 300 grams which is what I need. Has anyone actually taken in 1.5x your body weight in protein? And if so, can you testify that it actually made a difference? I’d like to hear from someone what I should expect to see now that I’m getting that amount of protein each day. (I’m only on day 3 of doing this)

 

[RottenWillow]

Age 34
6’1”
200lbs
Bench 305
Squat 300
Dead 350

I have been lifting for about 12 years but have never really kept up with my protein intake. I assumed I was always getting more than I needed for growth. Now that I have actually started tracking it I see that I have never been close to 300 grams which is what I need. Has anyone actually taken in 1.5x your body weight in protein? And if so, can you testify that it actually made a difference? I’d like to hear from someone what I should expect to see now that I’m getting that amount of protein each day. (I’m only on day 3 of doing this)

Protein quality and timing are both more important than total grams per day, so the amount you need is heavily determined by the amino profile of what you're getting.

Since I only consume very high quality protein I've found I achieve optimal growth rate by getting 1g per pound of lbm. More than that does not make a difference for me. I do not count incomplete protein sources like wheat proteins (gluten) or beans as protein. If it's not whey isolate, eggs or meat it doesn't get counted.

 

[shibs]

I get a good amount of protein.. the tricky part is getting all those dang carbs when bulking :\

 

[wiley79]

I keep a shaker cup in the truck with 2 scoops of whey in it, with about 5 grams of raw taurine just waiting for cool water as soon as I exit the gym. I read that the 30min after a workout is crucial, every since I started this, gains and bulk have been off the chart. But what works for one may not work for another. I recommend to try it for a couple weeks though.

 

[XMAN.]

Protein quality and timing are both more important than total grams per day, so the amount you need is heavily determined by the amino profile of what you're getting.

Since I only consume very high quality protein I've found I achieve optimal growth rate by getting 1g per pound of lbm. More than that does not make a difference for me. I do not count incomplete protein sources like wheat proteins (gluten) or beans as protein. If it's not whey isolate, eggs or meat it doesn't get counted.

agree with the amount and the sources , but u only want to increase that to 1.5 or even 2g per lbs of lbm when ur cycling, and always divide them to at least 6 meals and snacks (or shakes) duringthe day.

 

[XMAN.]

Protein quality and timing are both more important than total grams per day, so the amount you need is heavily determined by the amino profile of what you're getting.

Since I only consume very high quality protein I've found I achieve optimal growth rate by getting 1g per pound of lbm. More than that does not make a difference for me. I do not count incomplete protein sources like wheat proteins (gluten) or beans as protein. If it's not whey isolate, eggs or meat it doesn't get counted.

agree with the amount and the sources , but u only want to increase that to 1.5 or even 2g per lbs of lbm when ur cycling, and always divide them to at least 6 meals and snacks (or shakes) during the day.

 

[XMAN.]

Protein quality and timing are both more important than total grams per day, so the amount you need is heavily determined by the amino profile of what you're getting.

Since I only consume very high quality protein I've found I achieve optimal growth rate by getting 1g per pound of lbm. More than that does not make a difference for me. I do not count incomplete protein sources like wheat proteins (gluten) or beans as protein. If it's not whey isolate, eggs or meat it doesn't get counted.

agree with the amount and the sources , but u only want to increase that to 1.5 or even 2g per lbs of lbm when ur cycling, and always divide them to at least 6 meals and snacks (or shakes) duringt he day.

 

[shibs]

I keep a shaker cup in the truck with 2 scoops of whey in it, with about 5 grams of raw taurine just waiting for cool water as soon as I exit the gym. I read that the 30min after a workout is crucial, every since I started this, gains and bulk have been off the chart. But what works for one may not work for another. I recommend to try it for a couple weeks though.

It's actually been scientifically proven that taking your protein before your workout gives you the best results. It makes sense if you think about it.. the protein will enter your bloodstream and while you're working out your muscles are gorging on the blood even more so than if you would be resting after your workout. You pump more blood and deliver more nutrients to your muscles when you're working out.

 

[RottenWillow]

protein intake is overrated and one of the biggest load of bullshits in bodybuilding

if ur natural 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is all you need IF THAT, any more and its metabalised

the whole idea of spreading protein intake is another rumour, there are studies to prove there was NO increase in protein synthesism or difference in synthesism for people who spread there protein intake over 4 to 8 meals

its also show any meal or protien intake within 3 hours prior to a workout has no significant difference in strength and performance in strength, hence why whey protein shakes before a workout are almost useless

HOWEVER all these factors are for a natural individual, if your juicing or enhanced these factors would be influenced and i can advocate that 1.5 grams of protein intake would be suitable or could be beneficial, stack it with high carbs for building muscle, or low carbs to help preserve muscle

from personal experience i have had no improvement using more then 1.5 grams per pound body weight, if i need more calories i add carb and fat since they both are more anabolic and beneficial for the body then more protein

But do you know anyone who has ever tested that broscience? If you consider the effect that anabolic steroids have on the body, a different scenario is implied.


Because your nitrogen retention ability (and thereby muscle protein synthesis) goes WAY the hell up on gear, you could make significantly more rapid gains without increasing protein quantity at all. This assumes of course that your natty intake of protein was sufficient.

 

[stevesmi]

protein intake is overrated and one of the biggest load of bullshits in bodybuilding

if ur natural 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is all you need IF THAT, any more and its metabalised

the whole idea of spreading protein intake is another rumour, there are studies to prove there was NO increase in protein synthesism or difference in synthesism for people who spread there protein intake over 4 to 8 meals

its also show any meal or protien intake within 3 hours prior to a workout has no significant difference in strength and performance in strength, hence why whey protein shakes before a workout are almost useless

HOWEVER all these factors are for a natural individual, if your juicing or enhanced these factors would be influenced and i can advocate that 1.5 grams of protein intake would be suitable or could be beneficial, stack it with high carbs for building muscle, or low carbs to help preserve muscle

from personal expereince i have had no improvement using more then 1.5 grams per pound bodyweight, if i need more calories i add carb and fat since they both are more anabolic and beneficial for the body then more protein

I agree with your post. I honestly got way better gains worried about eating every 2 hours WHOLE FOODS. and not just downing protein shakes and bars all day. this whole counting protein is probably just years of whey companies putting out that info in magazines and misleading people.

I will quote a poster on here who was on the radio Ross "I only eat whole foods, I dont eat whey, it makes you sh** every hour and the body doesn't understand what it is" also he advocates brown rice and sweet potatoes as a staple of his meals.. the guy knows his stuff and is ahead of the times.

bottom line is make sure you keep your body anabolic and NOT catabolic.. avoid catabolism. avoid alcohol, caffeine, stress, poor sleep, crappy food (processed junk), which includes soy (which spikes estrogen) and sugars. that is the best way to build muscle.

to the OP, i promise you if you do that you will grow muscle better then just drinking 300 grams of whey a day. we didn't evolve on whey shakes, we evolved eating real foods. and obviously working out properly and allowing your muscles to recover, after all they grow when they are recovering, not while you are at the gym as Dorian Yates always says. so make sure you get plenty of rest!

no idea if that is broscience but that is what I've figured out very quickly.