Phen free

[jamie S]

Anyone use Phen free to lose body fat?
Is it safe?
Is it different to ephedrine?

I'm thinking of using it to get a quick start as i read about it in some training webpage...BUT I wont use it if its dangerous .... any suggestions

do people routinely use Phen-free to lose fat?
(along with cardio and weights and wathching the diet of course)

 

[Onenameleft]

Phen-Free has:
St. Johns wort
Yahombie
Cayenne Pepper
Caffeine..

It doesn't contain ephedrine or aspirin. Yahombie and Cayenne are both thermogenic, somewhat like ephedrine. You will feel warm when taking it, and it will probably speed weight loss along with cardio and diet. It looks like you're wanting to avoid ephedrine from your post. Why is that? If it's to avoid the jitters it causes or increased heart rate, then these things can cause that too.. For some people Yahombie is worse than ephedrine in that regard. For some it's not. There's nothing 'dangerous' in Phen free to answer your question. It will increase your heart rate and your temperature slightly, so as to whether it's safe, that's for you to decide. I'd suggest using ECA instead unless you have a specific reason you are avoiding ephedrine and aspirin. If there is, then this is probably an ok substitute. Good luck, and let us know if it works for you.

 

[jamie S]

re: no ephedrine

Hi there
thanks for your reply...

I have heard alot of bad stuff about ephedrine and side-effects.... although sideeffects are rare, if they do happen they're pretty severe....so i thought best to avoid it....
whats eca?

 

[Onenameleft]

ECA is Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Aspriin.
25mg/200mg/325mg
That's what's in most of the thermogenics out there. Metabolife is the most common one. Be careful using Yahombie to avoid side effects, as it can have some too. If you're going to take it, start out with a low dose, and see how you feel, and then up it if you aren't having problems. Yahombie made my hands shake more than ephedrine ever did, but I seem to be the exception and not the rule. A lot of people like it better. Ephedrine can have some pretty bad sides too, especially if you take too much. If you decide to take it, again, start off with one dose, maybe even at 12.5mg and work your way up. The most common sides are shakey hands, and a jittering feeling, and sometimes headaches. It can cause your heart to speed way up, and blood pressure to rise as well, so watch for that. Phen-free is probably safer overall, so if you're trying to be extra cautious, go ahead and start with that. I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the Yahombie and Cayenne. How much fat are you looking to lose?

 

[kbl40]

Jamie, almost all the fat loss drugs out there do the same thing, speed up your metabalism, increase your heart rate, so be careful when making your choice. You might want to just start off by cutting your overall calories, and setting up a good workout including cardio and weights. Good luck.

 

[jamie S]

fat loss - and pills

guys thanks for feedback
want to lose I guess - well i dont know how much fat loss in lbs...
but currently i am 5'7 and 132 lbs..
I am 21.5% body fat and want to get down to 16%

I guess maybe I will give working out a chance (only been at it 2 wks) and the diet too. Just thought maybe phenfree could give me a bit of a kickstart...]

 

[Mike Tyson79]

yeah it's cool for u to use it. .. it's a really girly supplement..

i'd give it to my girl if she needed to lose fat.

peace