People who think supplements actually work

[pdaddyII]

subscribed...let's hear it heavy, bring it

 

[cal62887]

Creatine just bloats you up. Does it do anything other than that????? Maybe, maybe not. Think you are more likely to train hard when you think you have an edge.

Creatine is actually well studied. However, I'm sure there are those that benefit more than others depending on natural creatine levels and nat. creatine stores.

Age and diet play a large role, but you can't say all creatine does is bloat you.

 

[mrplunkey]

Creatine is actually well studied. However, I'm sure there are those that benefit more than others depending on natural creatine levels and nat. creatine stores.

Age and diet play a large role, but you can't say all creatine does is bloat you.

I read a long time ago (years) that they believe creatine increased intracellular water which enhances strength and endurance. That's also one of the many beneficial things testosterone does. Of course, test does soooo much more

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Plenty of supplements that work. Trust me the pros do use tons of supplements along with their mega doses of aas and other things. It is what it is. Weight gainer works if you cant get 6 square meals per day its great,same with protein powder,glutamine branched chain aminos a good fat burner,a pre work out arginine formula or a post work out formula. I could go on for days.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I aint first to start a pointless thread in C&C.

C&C?

I think i'm losing my vision lol

 

[cal62887]

I read a long time ago (years) that they believe creatine increased intracellular water which enhances strength and endurance. That's also one of the many beneficial things testosterone does. Of course, test does soooo much more

A long time ago? There are studies that have been done recently that say the same thing.

Among the studied and proven supplements (aside from AAS, DS, and PHs):

-Creatine
-Beta Alanine
-BCAAs/EAA
-Caffeine
-Protein

There are also many supplements that are FDA approved and although I'm not a fan of the FDA, I think this list is a nice tool to use:

1. Niacin (prescription Niaspan for cholesterol)
2. Galantamine (prescription Razadyne for dementia)
3. Fish Oil esters (prescription Omacor for cholesterol)
4. Ephedrine
5. L-DOPA (prescription for PD)
6. Zinc (otc use)
7. Magnesium (otc use)
8. L-Tryptophan (prescription as an amino acid formulation)
9. L-Glutamine (prescription for mucositis)
10. Special Green tea extract (prescription Veregen for genital warts)
11. Yohimbine
12. Caffeine (OTC as an alert aid)
13. Red rice yeast (prescription name Lovastatin for cholesterol)
14. NAC (prescription for liver damage)
15. Bile Acids (prescription for liver support)
16. Iron (prescription for low iron levels)
17. Cyanocobalamin (prescription for low B-12)
18. Hydroxocobalamin (prescription for Cyanide Poisoning)
19. Fiber (OTC for bowel issues)
20. TMG (prescription for homocystinuria)
21. Magnesium (OTC and Prescription for constipation & anticonvulsant)
22. Lithium (Prescription for Bipolar Disorder)
23. GHB (Prescription Xyrem for narcolepsy with cataplexy)
24. Potassum (prescription)
25. DMSO (Prescription for Interstitial cystitis)
26. Calcium (OTC and prescription)
27. DMAE salt (was sold as a prescription)
28. Iodine (prescription)
29. Folic acid (prescription)
30. Capsaicin (OTC for pain)
31. Thiamine (prescription as a formulation)
32. Riboflavin (prescription as a formulation)

 

[cal62887]

Plenty of supplements that work. Trust me the pros do use tons of supplements along with their mega doses of aas and other things. It is what it is. Weight gainer works if you cant get 6 square meals per day its great,same with protein powder,glutamine branched chain aminos a good fat burner,a pre work out arginine formula or a post work out formula. I could go on for days.

The funniest youtube video I have ever seen is Ronnie Coleman spending 20 minutes taking vitamins and supplements out of a large tackle box.

Pros use MANY supplements as both support for health, AAS support, and muscle growth.

 

[javaguru]

Well if one wanted to be hard core with protein they would use egg protein wich is the best and most pure there is but its taste like asshole.

Gluco/Chrondroit/MSM supplement works pretty good but most people dismiss it because it dont work fast enough for them... It takes at least a month to start getting the effects of this and you should just stay on it. I do have a topical version coming out soon that will give instant effects...


Fish oil??? have you looked into krill oil? If not please do so.


How do you feel about bcaa's ?

I agree about being patient with the joint supplements, people want instant results...you see the "magic" with supplements over months, not days like AAS.
OOps..I should mentioned my supp stack beyond what I posted earlier.
Fish Oil
Borage Oil
I take 20g of BCAA in my workout drink(20g BCAA 40g D-glucose)
Creatine
Multi
TMG
Tyrosine
Alcar
ALA

 

[needtogetaas]

I agree about being patient with the joint supplements, people want instant results...you see the "magic" with supplements over months, not days like AAS.
OOps..I should mentioned my supp stack beyond what I posted earlier.
Fish Oil
Borage Oil
I take 20g of BCAA in my workout drink(20g BCAA 40g D-glucose)
Creatine
Multi
TMG
Tyrosine
Alcar
ALA

nice

 

[javaguru]

I like short esters too. More because I am a sick fuck and love pinning myself. The more the better...

As for two week cycles it may work for some people and it may work at a young age with no pct but its not the norm for anyone... I am willing to bet he changed his mind about this later on in life.. I have noticed Dan Duchaine has did a double many many times on his advice of old.... The guy has been around a long time and he himself has realized he fucked up many many times....

I have good roid genetics, you're right. I've done cycles that didn't work for my friends.I did two weeks on and four weeks off...over a couple years I made huge gains. I went from 198 to 240 with the three steps forward and two steps back approach.

Once I discovered Tren conversion I hit 265-270.

Back in the day, early 1990's, ancillaries were hard to come buy and the only juice you could count on being legit was the Mexican amps. I front loaded a gram of testoprim-D and was hobbled for a week.