PA1AD or Par Deus question on inj. 4ad and 19nordiol

[OVRTrainer]

That Par Deus, always making up the names of steroids...he's a pisser! *read with sarcasm*

 

[Par Deus]

Wherd you find the chem name? ive been searchign could not find it so i figured it was not true

It is referenced in a research paper I have.

BTW, this research paper has two other compounds that are just as potent, and they are both are orally active.

 

[MIKERAZ]

Ok i guess i stand corrected , if segaloff isnt 17aa how is it 100 percent orally active , or is it like 1-test activity

 

[Par Deus]

Ok i guess i stand corrected , if segaloff isnt 17aa how is it 100 percent orally active , or is it like 1-test activity

The paper I have does not test oral bioavailability, it just compares its oral activity to a reference standard (methyltest).

 

[MIKERAZ]

MikeRaz,

We all get your point I think, but it is clearly not a valid one. What is or is not on the DEA list in terms of steroids has absolutely nothing to do with potency. Scientists synthesized hundreds of steroids during the peak years of research. Only a small number made it to market. You are trying to make a case that the remaining hundreds of steroids were ignored because they were essentially useless, but that is simply not true. The Anabolic Steroid Control act included those steroids that were known by the lawmakers to be available, plain and simple. The laws were written by lawmakers, not chemists, which is why we are lucky enough to have a prohormone market today.

- Bill Llewellyn

Why is that fact have to do with pro-hormones?

 

[MIKERAZ]

One think i dont understand , these "potent" roids were so good why didnt the companys get them fda approved? Couldnt these "potent" roids prevent muscle wasting much better then lets say winstrol?

 

[MIKERAZ]

One think i dont understand , these "potent" roids were so good why didnt the companys get them fda approved? Couldnt these "potent" roids prevent muscle wasting much better then lets say winstrol?

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

One think i dont understand , these "potent" roids were so good why didnt the companys get them fda approved? Couldnt these "potent" roids prevent muscle wasting much better then lets say winstrol?

It is not a contest where the best compounds win FDA approval Mikeraz. There are plently of effective steroids that were never marketed, and naturally so. The drug market in the U.S. has no need for hundreds of different effective steroid compounds.

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Why is that fact have to do with pro-hormones?

By a chemists' definition they would all probably be considered androgens.

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[notpuff]

Thats true with ALL drugs. my uncle does ssri reaserch and a few years ago him and his team developed a great drug that was more effective then prozac, it didnt get marketed or fda approval because a few other guys on his team said there is no need for it because prozac,luvox etc are all doing a effective job, my uncle was shit pissed he was like in love with the drug

And 4ad and bolandiol are androgens