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Oral Dianabol for 1st Cycle

Really your best option is to reduce your bodyfat to a reasonable level naturally at under 15% before considering anything. You shouldn't be cycling at all with higher bodyfat. Then after that something like Helladrol would be an option

I'm not sure how people are misunderstanding my post but let me clear it up. Currently I am at 85kg/20%. I will diet down to ~70KG and should be at least 10% at this stage when I am thinking of going my first oral cycle. Give or take a couple of %.
 
I'm not sure how people are misunderstanding my post but let me clear it up. Currently I am at 85kg/20%. I will diet down to ~70KG and should be at least 10% at this stage when I am thinking of going my first oral cycle. Give or take a couple of %.

Well that changes everything I do apologize my friend, I still would say do test p but if you insist on an oral tbol or var would be my recommendations
 
I think you should man up and do test p for 12 weeks at 100eod but that's just my opinion, honestly though you should not touch aas until you hit 15% but 12% would be more preferable though


im kind of surprised at this post from you bro... that's not manning up... that's just stupid... 8 weeks is already a lot for prop and 10 is really maxing it out... 12 weeks is just wreckless...

OP... once you diet down to 10%, why would you want to run dbol to just bloat right back up again?? that really seems counterproductive to what you are trying to do...

what are your goals once you get down to your desired body fat
 
im kind of surprised at this post from you bro... that's not manning up... that's just stupid... 8 weeks is already a lot for prop and 10 is really maxing it out... 12 weeks is just wreckless...

OP... once you diet down to 10%, why would you want to run dbol to just bloat right back up again?? that really seems counterproductive to what you are trying to do...

what are your goals once you get down to your desired body fat

Are you serious 12 is to much? Shit was not aware of that my apologies, guess that makes sense though since prop has such a short ester
 
im kind of surprised at this post from you bro... that's not manning up... that's just stupid... 8 weeks is already a lot for prop and 10 is really maxing it out... 12 weeks is just wreckless...

OP... once you diet down to 10%, why would you want to run dbol to just bloat right back up again?? that really seems counterproductive to what you are trying to do...

what are your goals once you get down to your desired body fat

Build lean muscle really. The only reason I am looking at the D-Bol's is because I can get them fairly readily right away which is why I wanted some feedback on them.

I have read that Anavar/T-Bol etc. is a lot better (from what I understand T-Bol is basically D-Bol without the bloat). What would the recommendation be for an oral only first cycle with the goals of increasing strength/lbm?
 
I think low dose dbol is a fine "test the waters" first cycle. But at 20% bf, the OP needs to make a few more trips to the gym first.
 
Build lean muscle really. The only reason I am looking at the D-Bol's is because I can get them fairly readily right away which is why I wanted some feedback on them.

I have read that Anavar/T-Bol etc. is a lot better (from what I understand T-Bol is basically D-Bol without the bloat). What would the recommendation be for an oral only first cycle with the goals of increasing strength/lbm?

I wouldn't go as far as saying its dbol without the bloat but it is a good choice for lean body mass and will put on pretty solid keep able gains, halodrol if I'm not mistaken converts into tbol, I believe it's like 75mg of Hdrol is 20mg of tbol or something, please correct me if I'm wrong
 
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