OPINIONS On My New Routine..

[ZZuluZ]

My ignorant comments? Your lose bro.

It's obvious that they aren't productive. They're isolation exercises, which as we all know are hardly beneficial in terms of gaining mass. Instead they simply lead to overtraining. Lat pull downs SHOULD be repalced with pull-ups which are far superior to them (for obvious reasons).

I think every single expert agrees with me on this one. Isolation exercises and machines are a waste of time. From a biomechanical and evolutionary point of view they're simply not upto par.

-Zulu

 

[rgosit]

i was always lead to believe the big prime mover exercises were best... but the biggest guy in my gym...never seen him touch a free weight.

 

[ZZuluZ]

And you should train 3times a week just like Arnold because he was HUGE.

-Zulu

 

[IR0N.]

And you should train 3times a week just like Arnold because he was HUGE.

-Zulu

HEY! Thats true!

 

[MaCPiMP1n]

My ignorant comments? Your lose bro.

It's obvious that they aren't productive. They're isolation exercises, which as we all know are hardly beneficial in terms of gaining mass. Instead they simply lead to overtraining. Lat pull downs SHOULD be repalced with pull-ups which are far superior to them (for obvious reasons).

I think every single expert agrees with me on this one. Isolation exercises and machines are a waste of time. From a biomechanical and evolutionary point of view they're simply not upto par.

-Zulu

bro, I some what agree /w ur statement above.. But u also have to remember that different individuals have specific goals.. EVERY exercises/movements stimulate different muscles, thus growth.

I know that ur coming from a powerlifting background that's why u try to preach the keylifts that build the most muscle. Lets take this example "SHOULD be repalced with pull-ups which are far superior to them" - if you think about it, the movement is very similar; I'm not despiting that pulldowns are better than pullups.. I just think that it's a matter of preference. AND I believe that every exercise, whether it be core/isolation-freeweights/cable/machine, a person might benefit from varying their exercises.. just my 2cents

 

[MonStar1023]

Anyone viewing this thread I would recommend completely ignoring ZZuluZ's posts. He has no clue. Regardless, isolative and compound movements BOTH have their place in bodybuilding. Pulldowns and leg curls are far from useless.

 

[ZZuluZ]

Tell me WHY I'm wrong MonStar, are you capable of doing that?

Pulldowns and leg curls are not ok. You've got to understand that the [minimal] benefit is not worth the risk of overtraining by using those exercises.

Mac, are isolation and machines beneficial to some extent yes? But I think MonStar was enquiring about what works best. I told him. Got your PM btw....thx for the link. I couldnt' get back to you because your box was too full or something.

And MonStar, buddy, you've got some fucking nerve man. You come in here asking for advice, I give it to you and proceed to brush it off. Why did you ask if you thought you knew what you were talking about?

I seriously suggest you do some actual reading, some anatomy and physiological textbooks instead of posting 100 threads on 100 boards begging for advice.

-Zulu

 

[Blood&Iron]

My ignorant comments? Your lose bro.

It's obvious that they aren't productive. They're isolation exercises, which as we all know are hardly beneficial in terms of gaining mass. Instead they simply lead to overtraining. Lat pull downs SHOULD be repalced with pull-ups which are far superior to them (for obvious reasons).

No, not necessarily, though I would favor chins over pulldowns.

I think every single expert agrees with me on this one. Isolation exercises and machines are a waste of time. From a biomechanical and evolutionary point of view they're simply not upto par.

-Zulu

No, they don't. But I don't have the energy to argue. I don't think, for instance, doing only leg curls and leg extensions is a suitable replacement for squatting or leg pressing, but there is certainly a place for them in most routines. Just a few examples: Westside incorporates isolation moves, Poliquin uses them in his routines, and Bryan Haycock includes them in his hypertrophy-specific routines. There are plenty more examples.

Besides, it's pointless to comment on Monstar's routine. He'll just change it in a another week.

 

[Ingram]

Flyes Are Worthless.

Your opinions are worthless. Perhaps you should give Lee Priest a shout and tell him he's wasting his time doing flys.

 

[Ingram]

Leg extensions are worthless.

Maybe Mike Platz should hear your advice.