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MichaelMacGyver
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studlife22 said:
Steelers have the number one defense in the league. Can stop anyone.
Okay so who will win Steelers or Patriots
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Steelers have the number one defense in the league. Can stop anyone.
MichaelMacGyver
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patsfan1379 said:No one in this game is hungryer (sp?) than Corey Dillon. He has been waiting 8 years for this. The Steelers are going to play like they did last week and the Patriots are going to show them the definition of legacy.
Just like Peyton... Just like Peyton...
Steelers have a running back named Jerome Bettis, Number 5 all time rusher.
Get ready for the bus. Get in his way he's gonna knock you around (255 lbs.)
Anyway How about some karma for all the fans....
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MichaelMacGyver said:
puhleeeaaase!!!!
FigureSkater
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I have to say GO STEELERS (only 'cause I went to college with Ben...otherwise, I could care less).
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First..let me say i have been posting here for 3 years now and as most of you know I usually dont get into the back and forth crap..So, my post was designed to start discussions and get the juices flowing a little for what should be a great Sunday of Pro Football..So, i will not engage in name calling and all that shit my new friends are. Just having some fun...so chill the fuck out.
The NFL is all about match ups and Pitt matches up well with NE. The Jets, Jaguars and Chargers are all teams I did not want Pitt to see in the playoffs, tough matchups because the teams are so similiar in what they try and do.Big and physical up front on Defense and can defend the run well with strong running games, ball control type of Offenses. When those teams meet, you get close low scoring Defensive games where each play is more magnified and outcomes can change drastically. NE is NOT that type of team IMO. Its more about scheme with them and thats where i see the problems for the Patriots.
I for one thought Indy was ready to win...but, was wrong for the 31st time this season...and I'll be wrong again...So, its only a big deal to the people who enjoy calling me out.
NE's plan was brilliant Sunday though...Bellichek let his best players..his LB's, be the central figure in stopping the Colts Pass/run. He played his secondary deep and kept everything in front of them forcing Indy to throw short where his LB's/Harrison would be making all the hits/plays and his Secondary was more of a last line of Defense more than anything else. They made Indy earn everything they got and forced them to be ultra patient and when they finally did get into NE territory the field shortened and it made things even more of a problem for the Colts offense..It was a great game plan and they executed it flawlessly. He NEVER let his Corners be responsible for making 1 on 1 plays that would decide the outcome..
The problem this week I see is that Pitts style of play limits Bellicheks genius..He is limited in what he can do because he MUST commit 8 Defenders to stop the run..there's no other way you can do it against Pitt. If not, they rush 50 times for 275 yards and beat you up.
So, that limits them somewhat and will force NE's secondary to play more 1 on 1 type of coverages(unlike Indy where it was more of a scheme) and thats MUCH easier for Rothlesberger to figure out and attack than a 6-7 man Zone with different half field coverages and all that stuff. NE's Corners are nowhere as talented as the Jets.
Another problem for NE...I was at the first game sitting on the 45 yard line about 20 rows from the field and believe me when i tell you, Pitt physically POUNDED NE up front on BOTH sides of the ball(even w/ Seymore), I was amazed. I am not sure what NE can do to prevent that again. Even 8 guys in the box didnt work last time.. So, hows that all of a sudden going to change..?
UNLIKE LAST WEEK vs INDY..NE will not win the Physical battle and NE wont be able to run the ball consistantly..NOBODY has on Pitt.This is the BEST Defense in the NFL...Pitts Defense is dominant..they pummeled the Jets offense and if it werent for 2 GIFT TD's, It wouldnt have been close. You guys all know that.So, I dont buy the ball control theory for NE either..they need BIG plays, which are few and far between vs Pitt..
NE's best shot is big Special teams plays..and Pitt WONT forget what beat them vs NE in 2001 and ALMOST beat them last week..Punt returns...big plays on Special teams..Its a good situation for Pitt because of what happened last week vs the Jets..Cowher was fuming about it at his press conference, you could tell. I dont think you'll see that this week..
Also..NE put in alot of time,energy and emotion into last weeks preporations(NE did have 2 Weeks to get ready for Indy)...Bellichek even said it himself yesterday and said they are a "bit behind schedule this week". So, that would concern me If i were a Patriot fan. maybe they shot their load last week..? probally not, but, you never know.
Remember, Rothlesberger was playing his first game in 3 Weeks vs the Jets.he missed the season finally vs Bufallo and had 2 more weeks off..I think that more than anything may have been responsible for his erratic play.I think he'll be more relaxed this week and make better throws. His problem last week was not mental..it was physical..his throws were just bad and i think the layoff had alot to do with that.
Everyone is making this game out to be about bellichek/Brady vs Cowher/Rothlesberger..I see it as much more than that.
Pitt is at Home.
Pitt has the best Defense in the league
Pitt has the most dominant/physical run game in the league
Pitt is 15-1 ty
Brady will not win every playioff game he plays in, he will lose eventually. I think they run into a team that is equally as determined and equally as good as them this week and thats why i like Pitt.
PITTSBURGH 27
NEW ENGLAND 17
The NFL is all about match ups and Pitt matches up well with NE. The Jets, Jaguars and Chargers are all teams I did not want Pitt to see in the playoffs, tough matchups because the teams are so similiar in what they try and do.Big and physical up front on Defense and can defend the run well with strong running games, ball control type of Offenses. When those teams meet, you get close low scoring Defensive games where each play is more magnified and outcomes can change drastically. NE is NOT that type of team IMO. Its more about scheme with them and thats where i see the problems for the Patriots.
I for one thought Indy was ready to win...but, was wrong for the 31st time this season...and I'll be wrong again...So, its only a big deal to the people who enjoy calling me out.
NE's plan was brilliant Sunday though...Bellichek let his best players..his LB's, be the central figure in stopping the Colts Pass/run. He played his secondary deep and kept everything in front of them forcing Indy to throw short where his LB's/Harrison would be making all the hits/plays and his Secondary was more of a last line of Defense more than anything else. They made Indy earn everything they got and forced them to be ultra patient and when they finally did get into NE territory the field shortened and it made things even more of a problem for the Colts offense..It was a great game plan and they executed it flawlessly. He NEVER let his Corners be responsible for making 1 on 1 plays that would decide the outcome..
The problem this week I see is that Pitts style of play limits Bellicheks genius..He is limited in what he can do because he MUST commit 8 Defenders to stop the run..there's no other way you can do it against Pitt. If not, they rush 50 times for 275 yards and beat you up.
So, that limits them somewhat and will force NE's secondary to play more 1 on 1 type of coverages(unlike Indy where it was more of a scheme) and thats MUCH easier for Rothlesberger to figure out and attack than a 6-7 man Zone with different half field coverages and all that stuff. NE's Corners are nowhere as talented as the Jets.
Another problem for NE...I was at the first game sitting on the 45 yard line about 20 rows from the field and believe me when i tell you, Pitt physically POUNDED NE up front on BOTH sides of the ball(even w/ Seymore), I was amazed. I am not sure what NE can do to prevent that again. Even 8 guys in the box didnt work last time.. So, hows that all of a sudden going to change..?
UNLIKE LAST WEEK vs INDY..NE will not win the Physical battle and NE wont be able to run the ball consistantly..NOBODY has on Pitt.This is the BEST Defense in the NFL...Pitts Defense is dominant..they pummeled the Jets offense and if it werent for 2 GIFT TD's, It wouldnt have been close. You guys all know that.So, I dont buy the ball control theory for NE either..they need BIG plays, which are few and far between vs Pitt..
NE's best shot is big Special teams plays..and Pitt WONT forget what beat them vs NE in 2001 and ALMOST beat them last week..Punt returns...big plays on Special teams..Its a good situation for Pitt because of what happened last week vs the Jets..Cowher was fuming about it at his press conference, you could tell. I dont think you'll see that this week..
Also..NE put in alot of time,energy and emotion into last weeks preporations(NE did have 2 Weeks to get ready for Indy)...Bellichek even said it himself yesterday and said they are a "bit behind schedule this week". So, that would concern me If i were a Patriot fan. maybe they shot their load last week..? probally not, but, you never know.
Remember, Rothlesberger was playing his first game in 3 Weeks vs the Jets.he missed the season finally vs Bufallo and had 2 more weeks off..I think that more than anything may have been responsible for his erratic play.I think he'll be more relaxed this week and make better throws. His problem last week was not mental..it was physical..his throws were just bad and i think the layoff had alot to do with that.
Everyone is making this game out to be about bellichek/Brady vs Cowher/Rothlesberger..I see it as much more than that.
Pitt is at Home.
Pitt has the best Defense in the league
Pitt has the most dominant/physical run game in the league
Pitt is 15-1 ty
Brady will not win every playioff game he plays in, he will lose eventually. I think they run into a team that is equally as determined and equally as good as them this week and thats why i like Pitt.
PITTSBURGH 27
NEW ENGLAND 17
patsfan1379
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JKurz1 said:
what the hell are you talking about dude? all in this thread were having fun with this until you had to drop this 45,000 line terd that no one is going to read.
Im a Patriots fan. I want them to win. End of story.
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good stuff Kurz
but Pitt got a gift TD too,thier first one
the Jets were moving the ball against Pitt
it was tough and not easy,but they were gaining a solid 4 yards every run up the middle
the Jets did come out ahead in the breaks with Ben tossing bad at the end,but part of that was due to his befuddlement over the course of the game
I agree with much of your assessment
just think the ben confidence factor is too shaky
wouldn't bet this one
but Pitt got a gift TD too,thier first one
the Jets were moving the ball against Pitt
it was tough and not easy,but they were gaining a solid 4 yards every run up the middle
the Jets did come out ahead in the breaks with Ben tossing bad at the end,but part of that was due to his befuddlement over the course of the game
I agree with much of your assessment
just think the ben confidence factor is too shaky
wouldn't bet this one
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I disagree,when the camera zoomed into the huddle dude looked very unconfident,shakyJKurz1 said:
when the game was in progress I pointed out as such prior to his INT tosses
he closed the half 3/12
did well early in the second half,then stank it up bad at the end
NE is too damn good
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