Not training to failure?

[b fold the truth]

I didn't mean for my post to be offensive...just that you don't have to go to failure to grow...manipulate with many variables.

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

Addressed to the guy who started the thread.

-Zulu

 

[coolcolj]

I used to train to fialure on evrything. It works if you keep the volume low and workouts short.

But once I added in work, sports etc, I just burned out big time.

So now I'm doing it differently.

 

[benchmonster]

I do at most two exercises per week to failure. One max effort bench movement, and one max effort squat movement. You can get bigger and stronger without training to failure on every set.

In fact it is much easier to get bigger and stronger if you don't continually and completely torch your CNS by going to failure all the time. You could not train like I do and take every set to failure. Absolutely could not be done. After week you would be in the hospital.

Training to failure often will set you up for failure often.

B.

 

[Robert Jan]

so Needsize like the way you put it... the whole 5x5 block could be viewed as one big set to failure. only with rest periods.

that sounds like, much better and simpler now.

 

[coolcolj]

Put it this way -

muscles recover faster than the CNS, so do enough to stimulate the muscles to adapt, and nothing more

 

[barbell265]

I agree w/ need size

Need size has the key. Train hard but train smart. I personally do 2-warm ups, after a simple streching routine, and do 4 work sets or 3-5 reps when bulking. When I can get 4 sets of 5 I bump the weight up 5 lbs and start over. I do this for 12 weeks, then do a shredding set for 8 weeks. My shredding sets, which I just started 4 days ago, consist of streching, 2-warm ups and 6 sets of 10-15. I have been experiencing such huge pumps this week I can hardly believe it! My arms and chest have never been that big!! The pump was incredible!! After 4 days of this, BTW I am taking clomid 50/ed and 1mg L-dex post cycle, I am more vascular and feel larger than at the end of my last bulking cycle.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

if your bench is stuck then do a search for static reps on the forum here –_really works

 

[Japanese machine]

Put it this way -

muscles recover faster than the CNS, so do enough to stimulate the muscles to adapt, and nothing more

CNS adaptation is what allows muscles to grow.

 

[voodoo]

Going until you can't lift one more if postive failure. This is not the same failure as some people see it, but in most cases when people tell you to go until failure they mean positive failure. Not the kind you spotter has to save you from.

Every now and then its good to try to go past this point. If you can make the "extra" rep its time to add some ##.

Personally I agree with the idea that you only need to overload the muscle to stimulate growth.