NEW DIET INVENTED!!!...read on

[Mr.X]

Guys and Gals I finally got around to writing the SHIFT-DIET...enjoy everyone

NEW DIET!!! THE SHIFT DIET
http://www.elitefitness.com/articles/
Look for Mr.X dieters digest

This is my baby article, I made up the MKD = Metamorphose Ketonic Diet
MKD Manual
http://www.mesomorph.net/bros/docs.php?ID=50
WARNING: USE MKD AT YOUR OWN RISK

My CKD/TKD Manuals and Motivational article, and
7 day-3step--Protein/Carb cycling Manual
http://www.elitefitness.com/articles

Enjoy everyone.

Mr.X

 

[bonapart]

what can I say Mr.X...

you are da man! you rock!

I've only been on this forum for about a month and yet I've found more solid info than I had found everywhere else on the internet (combined) over the past few years!

thanks!

bonapart

 

[Fonz]

You forgot the ketogenic ratio Mr.X in your
article.

Ketogenic ratio necessary to maintain ketosis
(At ANY meal)

Fat(g)
-------------------- > 1.5 and C<30g/day as a restriction.
Prot(g)+carbs(g)

Fat is 10% glucogenic, protein is 58% glucogenic and carbs are 100% glucogenic.

Glucogenic=conversion to glucose.

Godspeed

 

[Mr.X]

You forgot the ketogenic ratio Mr.X in your
article.

Ketogenic ratio necessary to maintain ketosis
(At ANY meal)

Fat(g)
-------------------- > 1.5 and C<30g/day as a restriction.
Prot(g)+carbs(g)

Fat is 10% glucogenic, protein is 58% glucogenic and carbs are 100% glucogenic.

Glucogenic=conversion to glucose.

Godspeed

Fonz, I'm not clear on the way you are presenting your topic. Please make this more clear. Or PM me with suggestions.

Mr.X

 

[Fonz]

The ketogenecity of a meal is determined by the above equation. Any meal with a ketogenic ratio
lower than 1.5:1 will kick you out of ketosis.

Godspeed

 

[Mr.X]

The ketogenecity of a meal is determined by the above equation. Any meal with a ketogenic ratio
lower than 1.5:1 will kick you out of ketosis.

Godspeed

Oh, you are saying that Ketogenic ratios HAVE to be 1.5:1 (fat/protein) to maintain ketosis. That is a false statement and becomes inconsistent with many people. In fact, studies have show that Ketosis can be maintained with simple 1:1 ratios, and in some cases even lower fat ratios accomplished ketosis.

Over the years, I've actually held a steady rate of Ketosis (ketosix and Ketone blood meter) with 40%fat/60% protein ratios.

Mr.X

 

[dieseltwin]

The ketogenic ratio is needed for keto diets for epilepsy in children, but not for us. Technically, you don't even need any fat to maintain a ketogenic diet, its there for the calories.

 

[Fonz]

Dieseltwin, thats UTTER NONSENSE.

A completely protein diet will convert to glucose with
58% efficiency therefore kicking you out of Ketosis for SURE.

And I still disagree with Mr.X on this. While a 1:1 ketogenic
ratio will keep you in mild ketosis, ANY LOWER and
you'll get kicked out for a short time. Period.

I find it exceptionally hard to believe that a 40%fat/60%protein
meal didn't kick you out of ketosis for a few hours
AT LEAST.

Besides, the reasoning behnd te 1:1 approach(Lyle McDonald)
was that Ketone blood levels have A DIRECT IMPACT
on ketone formation from adipose tissue fatty acids.
Basically, the more diluted the amount of ketones in
the bloodstream, the more ketones will be produced from
body-fat stores.
At higher ratios, ketone blood concentrations are high, therefore
ketone formation from body-fat remains lowered.

Just think about it.

A 1000Kcal meal composed of 40%fat and 60% protein
with ZERO carbs.

400Kcal fat/9Kcal/g*0.1=4.44g of glucose.
600Kcal pro/4Kcal/g*0.58= 87g glucose

Total glucose: 91.44g


I refuse to believe that a meal with 91.44g of glucose WON'T
kick you out of ketosis. UNLESS insulin or high dose ALA is used.

Godspeed

 

[horse]

Mr X.

Ive now been on your CKD diet for a week and I love it.
Ive now read your MKD insulin approach and am verry intrested, BUT:

I have a few questions that I hope you an answer, as I dont quite understand everything.

In the CKD diet you have set ratios of protien/fats

Day:


1-> 85%fat/15%protein--BMR-5%


2-> 75%fat/25%protein--BMR-10%

But in MKD you have

Day 1: 85% fat/15% protein---BMR ->

Day 2: 85%fat/15% protein---BMR->

Which one is right?

Question 2

You also have different lengths in cardio and weight training in CKD and no workout in MKD.

Question 3

Do I add that 60g of protein to my total cal or have it as an extra?




Can I just Stick with the CKD and add the insulin/protien in the morning?

Thanks man sorry for all the questions.
And keep up all the good info.
Horse.

 

[dieseltwin]

Fonz,
I wrote my reply in a hurry and I realize my wording could be misunderstood. However, EXCESS protein can kick you out of ketosis. (remember that your brain adapts to the ketones and low glucose after a while, lowing the protein requirement to prevent muscle protein from breakdown)
If you want to mention Lyle McDonald, did you even
read his book? He talked about a 300 kcal/day liquid protein ketogenic diet in the 70's that people actually died off of (because it wasn't a complete protein.)
The fat is there providing calories, helping the liver produce ketones (it'll start producing ketones faster with (more) dietary fat-which is one of the reasons for the approach of a higher fat to protein ratio the days after carb-up), etc.