New- Advice Needed

[Sassy69]

The distilled water thing has been bugging me too -- keep forgetting to write anything ---

--- There's been a long-running debate about the use of standard or distilled water for competition prep. I did the distilled water thing the last 2 weeks prior to my first show. I've had this discussion w/ diff trainers (all the way up to pro-level trainers) and there's still no final 'best solution'. The idea being there is sodium and stuff in regular water - but by the same token if you drink distilled water, it is essentially dead water - what is the point? Your body needs water and consists of mostly water anyway. Is there a point to distilled water?

Unless you want to experiment and you are 2 weeks away from competition, I don't really recommend distilled water. Its just dead water.

Do you have a reason for drinking it?

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I was thinking the same thing on the distilled H2O as Sassy was. There really is no reason to drink distilled water for the average person.

As for supplements - you say you think you are taking too much. That may be the case if you do not know WHY you are taking these things, or if you are simply taking them because "someone told you to". What is the reason for each thing you are currently taking?

 

[scgirl28]

Hi,

The distilled water I read about in an article. I don't remember if they explained the reasoning but it was included in the pre-contest diet. I'll try to find it. Would you mind explaining the water and 'dead' water for me?

Supplements:

Pyruvate 3 times/day
L-glutamine 1 day (going to switch to powder and drink before and after workouts)
L-carnitine 2 day
cla + green tea 2 day
flax oil on no carb days
glocorell on high carb day
ala 1 day
5htp and niacin 2 day

Pyruvate to aid in weight loss - used it before and found it useful
L-Gluatmine for muscle recovery - now using 5mg powder in protein shake pre and post workouts.
L-Carnitine because I don't eat a lot of dairy or red meat and it is supposed to aid in fat loss, energy and muscle growth.
CLA + green tea for fat loss and energy(mid section)
Glucorell to help with carbs and level insulin
5htp to control hunger and added benefit of helping me stay level. I'm girly with my emotions

OK - added to this I am starting a clen cycle this monday. 3 weeks on 2 off 3 on. Using Yohimbine to help keep the clen working and clean receptors. Also started YES last week during workouts.

I was planning to slowly add t3 up to 25mg and then cycle down, weeks 2 through 7. Doing an ECA stack on the 2 off weeks.

I would like to get my supplements straight and make sure I'm not over doing anything.

Arms are looking good, back still needs work, legs are coming along. My abs have a layer of fat. I can see the muscle I just need to get rid of the fat. I'm as small as I've ever been in my bra size so I guess the very last fat will be my abs. I've never had a six pac but it seems that after having kids this area is harder to lose?

I need to have energy (2 kids, work, husband, life ... you know!), need appetite to be suppressed and need help losing fat. Is there anything else I should take..or re-work the whole thing?


Your advice is appreciate!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Hi,

The distilled water I read about in an article. I don't remember if they explained the reasoning but it was included in the pre-contest diet. I'll try to find it. Would you mind explaining the water and 'dead' water for me?

Supplements:

Pyruvate 3 times/day
L-glutamine 1 day (going to switch to powder and drink before and after workouts)
L-carnitine 2 day
cla + green tea 2 day
flax oil on no carb days
glocorell on high carb day
ala 1 day
5htp and niacin 2 day

Pyruvate to aid in weight loss - used it before and found it useful
L-Gluatmine for muscle recovery - now using 5mg powder in protein shake pre and post workouts.
L-Carnitine because I don't eat a lot of dairy or red meat and it is supposed to aid in fat loss, energy and muscle growth.
CLA + green tea for fat loss and energy(mid section)
Glucorell to help with carbs and level insulin
5htp to control hunger and added benefit of helping me stay level. I'm girly with my emotions

OK - added to this I am starting a clen cycle this monday. 3 weeks on 2 off 3 on. Using Yohimbine to help keep the clen working and clean receptors. Also started YES last week during workouts.

I was planning to slowly add t3 up to 25mg and then cycle down, weeks 2 through 7. Doing an ECA stack on the 2 off weeks.

I would like to get my supplements straight and make sure I'm not over doing anything.

Arms are looking good, back still needs work, legs are coming along. My abs have a layer of fat. I can see the muscle I just need to get rid of the fat. I'm as small as I've ever been in my bra size so I guess the very last fat will be my abs. I've never had a six pac but it seems that after having kids this area is harder to lose?

I need to have energy (2 kids, work, husband, life ... you know!), need appetite to be suppressed and need help losing fat. Is there anything else I should take..or re-work the whole thing?


Your advice is appreciate!

The supps your currently taking are all good. I did find the 5-htp to be a great mood boaster.

As for the T3 not just a no but a hell no don't take that if your not taking any steroids you will just lose muscle on it and that you don't want. As I stated for a bikini contest there is no need to take steroids they don't want that much muscle on you. All they want is abs showing and a nice balance to your body.

 

[Sassy69]

Wikipedia:
Distilled water is water that has virtually all of its impurities as well as electrolytes removed through distillation (boiling the water and re-condensing the steam into a clean container, leaving contaminants behind).

Sure it sounds great to have water w/ no impurities - but you need your electrolytes balanced -- electrolyte imbalance & dehydration are the single greatest problem in BB competition - this is what happens when u see people pass out on stage & get rushed off to the hospital.

Here's how I judge most everythign that goes into my body--- humans existed long before shit like Weight Watchers, sugar-free, fat-free, etc food was created. Why would you introduce something into your regular daily life diet that doesn't occur naturally in nature. ESPECIALLY water?

And here's somethign that is CRITICAL to remember about reading what people do for competition - Always remember that anything that people do during a pre-competition diet is all subject to running it for a short period of time and then STOPPING it. Its not a lifestyle - its a very focused set of phases and calculated changes you make in order to do short term manipulation of your body's water and metabolism to look a certain way on show day, and then you don't care what happens after that show day -- you come off all the crazy stuff you are doing and move back towards a more normal existence so your body can recover from the extrems that you put it thru with ONLY the goal of looking a certain way on show day. This stuff is not part of a lifestyle - it is strictly part of several phases to prepare for a show day, present on show day and then rebound & recover from show day. Any other expectation from those practices is wrong, will most likely blow up in your face at some point and may make you end up worse off.

For ex - the Atkins Diet - goal - dump first water weight & then burn fat. That's very close to a phase of the last week of competition prep. But you simply cannot expect to have energy or build muscle on that diet if you try to make it a lifestyle - it is not a maintainable & healthy existence.

My personal opinion of clen + t3 --- get your diet & training in order & work very well for several weeks before getting involved w/ this shit. Just my opinion. If you are running clen make sure you are well aware of what you need to support your body while you run it -- get your taurine, get your benedryl if you're going to run it the 3rd week straight. Drink shit loads of water. Pay very close attention to how you react to it -- if you don't handle the stim effect well (includeing the shakes & the headaches) any small gains you make in fat burning may be compromised by poor recovery (i.e. shitty night's sleep). Watch the cramping -- keep the l-taurine with you -- the foot cramps are brutal when you dehydrate. T3 -- its a thyroid medication - nuff said.

And most all of those supps - make sure you are cyclign them - on & off to give your body a break -- this is just basic common sense when you are supplementign a lot of stuff. None of those are miracle drugs -they only provide a little more incremental support to your body's ability to operate in the environment that you create for it- diet , activity, recovery, stress. Your body can adapt to them and they become less effective if you never take time off from them.

Hi,

The distilled water I read about in an article. I don't remember if they explained the reasoning but it was included in the pre-contest diet. I'll try to find it. Would you mind explaining the water and 'dead' water for me?

Supplements:

Pyruvate 3 times/day
L-glutamine 1 day (going to switch to powder and drink before and after workouts)
L-carnitine 2 day
cla + green tea 2 day
flax oil on no carb days
glocorell on high carb day
ala 1 day
5htp and niacin 2 day

Pyruvate to aid in weight loss - used it before and found it useful
L-Gluatmine for muscle recovery - now using 5mg powder in protein shake pre and post workouts.
L-Carnitine because I don't eat a lot of dairy or red meat and it is supposed to aid in fat loss, energy and muscle growth.
CLA + green tea for fat loss and energy(mid section)
Glucorell to help with carbs and level insulin
5htp to control hunger and added benefit of helping me stay level. I'm girly with my emotions

OK - added to this I am starting a clen cycle this monday. 3 weeks on 2 off 3 on. Using Yohimbine to help keep the clen working and clean receptors. Also started YES last week during workouts.

I was planning to slowly add t3 up to 25mg and then cycle down, weeks 2 through 7. Doing an ECA stack on the 2 off weeks.

I would like to get my supplements straight and make sure I'm not over doing anything.

Arms are looking good, back still needs work, legs are coming along. My abs have a layer of fat. I can see the muscle I just need to get rid of the fat. I'm as small as I've ever been in my bra size so I guess the very last fat will be my abs. I've never had a six pac but it seems that after having kids this area is harder to lose?

I need to have energy (2 kids, work, husband, life ... you know!), need appetite to be suppressed and need help losing fat. Is there anything else I should take..or re-work the whole thing?


Your advice is appreciate!