what kind of "optemem" vitamins are u taking, bro? I have lots of people tell me that Animal Pak 44 vitamins, RUIN the kidney filters. Many people.... of various stages of physique one of whom looks like he could win his pro-card soon. Did you know that excess Protein can ruin your kidney filters, too? No one talks about this. I think Animal Pak vitamins 44 should be discontinued. As an aside, those of us older dudes from the mid 80s / 1990s of bodybuilding remember "Cybergenetics" or something to that effect, (it was big Pills a stack of them) which had the Sponsorship of Franco Santorello, who actually I've learnt was sent to prison for something. Now Franco is a devout Christian.