need SLEEP!?!? READ

[Donnie Darko]

8. Wild Lettuce
9. Jamaican Dogwood

You smoke those right? Or, am I thinking of something else?

 

[chazk]

i orderd some trazdone off line read it increases seratonin and promotes sleep.

After a few days i noticed water retention in my face and midsection.
Thought it was in my head,,keep taking it for 2 weeks to sleep
gained 6lbs of water bloat
I looked like shit, threw it out and in about 2-3 weeks returned to normal.

 

[eddymerckx]

Originally Posted by barodumonde

Good Sleep Hygiene (Most Important):

1.. Get up early in the morning so that you're on the correct circadian rhythm.
2. Avoid taking naps during the day past 1 PM.
3. Keep the lights off at night so that you're brain creates the necessary chemicals for sleep.
4. Avoid stressful activity several hours before sleep (stressful activity makes your body pump out cortisol which will keep you awake).
5. Eat for Sleep: Starchy foods help by prompting the production of serotonin.
6. Sleep on a comfortable bed.
7. Keep a notepad near your bed so that you can write down everything on your mind that is keeping you from being able to fall asleep.

Herbal Sleep-Aids:

7. Chamomile Flower Extract--tried the tea version--sorta worked


Amino Acid & Other Subtance Sleep Aids:
1. 5-HTP
2. L-Tryptophan (by RX only in the U.S.) always worked for me than al of a sudden a bad batch into the us and poof, gone


Prescription Sleep Aids:
1. Zolpidem (Ambien) --my doc said this stuff should be banned

2. Trazodone (Desyrel) -- Antidepressent which helps sleep worked for a while but really messed-up in the morning if you get less than 8 hours

3. Clonazepam (Klonopin) great for anxiety -related sleep problems


great post

 

[jagerbombme]

Klonopin and valium are horrible sleep aids. May help you fall asleep but they interfere with later stages of REM sleep causing many disruptions. Not to mention a groggy hang over feeling.

Ambien, trazadone and flexeril are good for sleep disorders. Theres one more but Im forgetting it.

I had sleep apnea so Im aware of all this stuff. Xanax is another one thats bad for sleep.

Keeping a tv out of the bedroom is a good idea and stay off the computer. If you cant fall asleep in 15 mins get up and walk around and do some simple things then try and go back to sleep

xanax is bad for sleep? hmm, i get crazy dreams when i take xanax, i think i was just taking too much vitamin b complex and couldn't sleep even with simply sleep, i'd lay there, eyes closed, and hours pass and no sleep unless i drop .5mg xanax. well now i laid off the vitamin b a little and i can sleep. i have tons of flexeril sitting here. what could this do to your gains though? i know you sleep good, i can't stay awake when i take it. last time i took one, passed out at my brothers and they were drawing pictures on my face with markers. didn't even fucking know it. then i got into truck and wife drove, fell asleep half a block and woke up, felt like i was out for a fucking hour. love the shit. wouldn't want it to fuck up my pumps or gains though. what do you think bro?

 

[footballstud]

Tren A fucks with my sleep. Waking up early, 2 x day workouts, good diet, and still only 4-5 hours sleep a night. I gotta know this is messing with my potential gains in the gym

 

[OMEGA]

messes with mind and cns

cut back to 37.5 mgs a day

 

[footballstud]

messes with mind and central nervous system

cut back to 37.5 mgs a day

Might start doing that. I bet the EOD injects don't help much either.

 

[OMEGA]

no they do not

 

[OMEGA]

dont forget trenbolone is more androgenic then Test, hence way more central nervous system activity

 

[TBD 21]

sleep is a key to gains. good thread for people who have problems shutting down the system for a recharge