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Approved Log My Testosterone Cypionate, Winstrol Cycle

Updates to my log:

Currently cruising test cypionate at 750mg a week. I’m on week 10 of my cycle and took it to 12 weeks like you guys recommended. I’m currently 175 pounds, a 16 pound increase from the first day of my cycle (04/22/23). My meals have stayed the same for the most part. No adjustments. Training updates with weight are below. Current pictures of my physique will be in a separate reply.

Chest progression:



Week 9:



Flat bench: 1st (185 14 reps), 2nd (195 9 reps), 3rd (205 5 reps)

Incline dumbbell press: 1st (65 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (70 11 reps), 3rd (75 6 reps)

Flat bench flys: 1st (40 17 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (50 7 reps)

Cable flys: 1st (70 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (75 14 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (80 8 reps *increase weight next week*)

Dumbbell pull over: 1st (50 17 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (55 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (60 8 reps)

Back progression



Week 9:



Wide grip chin ups: 1st (body weight 8 reps), 2nd (body weight 5 reps), 3rd (30 relief 15 reps), 4th (30 relief 10 reps), 5th (skipped for week 9) 6th (skipped for week 9)



Wide grip lat pull down: 1st (140 15 reps *increase next week*), 2nd (145 9 reps), 3rd (145 11 reps), 4th (150 8reps), 5th (skipped for week 9), 6th (skipped for week 9)



Medium reverse grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (110 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (115 12 reps *increase weight next week), 3rd (120 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (125 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 5th (skipped for week 9), 6th (skipped for week 9)



Close grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (110 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (115 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (120 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (125 9 reps), 5th (skipped for week 9), 6th (skipped for week 9)



One arm dumbbell row: 1st (80 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (85 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (90 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (95 8 reps) 5th (skipped for week 9), 6th (skipped for week 9)



Shoulders progression



Week 8:



Seated dumbbell press: 1st (70 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (75 11 reps), 3rd (75 9 reps), 4th (75 7 reps)

Cable upright row: 1st (140 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (145 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (150 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (155 10 reps)

Seated barbell press (behind the neck): 1st (75 15 reps) *increase weight next week*), 2nd (80 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (90 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (95 10 reps)

Standing lat raise: 1st (30 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 8 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Rear incline raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (35 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (35 11 reps), 4th (35 12 reps)

Cable lat raise: 1st (32.5 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (37.5 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (40 10 reps)



Arms progression



Week 8:



Close grip bench press: 1st (140 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (145 14 reps *increase weight next week*, 3rd (150 11 reps), 4th (150 8 reps)

One arm dumbbell extension: 1st (25 15 reps), 2nd (25 13 reps), 3rd (25 10 reps), 4th (25 10 reps)

Cable extension: 1st (130 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (135 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (140 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (150 8 reps)

Dips: 4 sets, max reps

Incline dumbbell curl: 1st (30 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (35 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 9 reps), 4th (40 7 reps)

Alternate dumbbell curl: 1st (40 13 reps), 2nd (40 11 reps), 3rd (40 9 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Dumbbell concentration curl: 1st (27.5 15 reps), 2nd (27.5 12 reps), 3rd (27.5 10 reps), 4th (27.5 9 reps)

Barbell curl: 1st (55 15 reps), 2nd (60 10 reps), 3rd (65 9 reps), 4th (70 7 reps)

Wrist curl: 1st (30 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 11 reps), 3rd (30 17 reps), 4th (30 16 reps)

Reverse curl: 1st (30 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (50 16 reps), 4th (60 15 reps)


Legs progression



Week 6:



Leg press: 1st (140 30 reps), 2nd (180 25 reps), 3rd (220 20 reps)

Leg curl: 1st (85 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (90 8 reps), 3rd (95 10 reps)

Hack squat: 1st (100 12 reps), 2nd (100 12 reps), 3rd (100 120reps)

Leg extension: 1st (65 25 reps), 2nd (70 22 reps), 3rd (75 18 reps)

Seated calf raise: 1st (70 15 reps), 2nd (75 15 reps), 3rd (80 13 reps), 4th (85 12 reps), 5th (85 13 reps)

Donkeys (on leg press): 1st (60 20 reps), 2nd (70 18 reps), 3rd (80 15 reps), 4th (80 15 reps), 5th (skipped for week 6)

Calf machine: 1st (70 15 reps), 2nd (75 12 reps), 3rd (80 12 reps), 4th (skipped for week 6), 5th (skipped for week 6)
@aberz good to see training updates I've been waiting for weeks

can you please update us on training at least every week?
 

I checked your picture above impressive abs are tight and you leaner than before

lets talk your next cycle in this thread, what did you want to do @aberz ?


tren test clen you said, well you're lean already I'm thinking based on your log update

300mgs trenbolone acetate per week 100mgs 3x/week
200mgs testosterone propionate per week 100mgs 2x/week
300mgs masteron prop/week 100mgs 3x/week
50mgs winstrol ed
7caps n2guard ed
5mgs aromasin EOD to E3D depends how you feel
 
I was was told by some in this thread that cruising at 750 a week isn’t bad and if it works then keep at it so that’s what I did.
Imo that is just really high considering most people's cycle is 500mg test and you are at a cruse at 750. I will just say it isn't healthy staying that high for long periods of time its alot of stress on the body just be careful is all.
 
@aberz check this video out when you get the chance this can explain it better then i can, Dylan explains blasting & cruise etc. Definitely worth the watch so you can learn more on what you are doing.

 
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I was was told by some in this thread that cruising at 750 a week isn’t bad and if it works then keep at it so that’s what I did.
500mgs/week is the max cruising dose @aberz
 
Imo that is just really high considering most people's cycle is 500mg test and you are at a cruse at 750. I will just say it isn't healthy staying that high for long periods of time its alot of stress on the body just be careful is all.
So I have two full weeks left of my cycle (just finished week 10). So you think I should stay in 750 or should I drop to 500?
 
Might as well finish out the 750 for the last 2 weeks and hit it hard you've come this far. After cycle is done you would probably be fine on 200-300mg for a cruise if anything I'd do blood work and see how your lipids look it will paint a better picture as to how your body is doing with the dosage.
 
So I have two full weeks left of my cycle (just finished week 10). So you think I should stay in 750 or should I drop to 500?
Stay at 750(unless you are having issues) and push hard the last few weeks. No need to taper down.
 
Here is my current cycle, currently on week 4. Weeks 1-3 are completed. I am 25 years old, currently weigh 172 lbs. The first day of my cycle I weighed 159 lbs. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact. I have a lean physique and have always been pretty lean. I’ve been working out for 10 years but on and off from 2017-2020 due to a lower back problem. I’ve been working out religiously for the past 2 years. I workout 5 days a week and personally feel like am making very good progress and according to others I am, which is good. I’m the guy who posted about his Winstrol issue. Below is my cycle:

Week 1: 1 shot cypionate 125 mg (1cc)(Saturday)

Week 2 and 3: 2 shots cypionate (125 mg each day) (Saturday and Monday)

Week 4-6: 3 shots of cypionate (125 mg each day) and winstrol (Saturday, Monday, and Wednesday)

Week 7: 2 shots cypionate (125 mg each day), 1 shot winstrol (Saturday and Monday)

Week 8: 2 shots cypionate (125 mg each day)(Saturday and Monday)

Week 9 and 10: 1 shot cypionate (125 mg each day) (Saturday)
Tren (ace), Clen, Test (cypionate) cycle:

Hello everyone, sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’ve posted over the summer on a cycle I was doing and you guys helped out a ton. I will be hopping on a tren (ace), clen, and test (cypionate) cycle soon. I need your guys’ best advice on how I should break this cycle up in terms of dosages, how many weeks, etc. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact and cruising at 170 pounds. I’ve been cycled off from my last cycle for almost 3 months now but still pretty solid and and haven’t really lost any strength gains or physical gains. Let me know!
 
Tren (ace), Clen, Test (cypionate) cycle:

Hello everyone, sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’ve posted over the summer on a cycle I was doing and you guys helped out a ton. I will be hopping on a tren (ace), clen, and test (cypionate) cycle soon. I need your guys’ best advice on how I should break this cycle up in terms of dosages, how many weeks, etc. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact and cruising at 170 pounds. I’ve been cycled off from my last cycle for almost 3 months now but still pretty solid and and haven’t really lost any strength gains or physical gains. Let me know!
@aberz locked your other thread: https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/advice-for-best-tren-clen-test-cycle.1510998/
lets talk in this thread
 
Tren (ace), Clen, Test (cypionate) cycle:

Hello everyone, sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’ve posted over the summer on a cycle I was doing and you guys helped out a ton. I will be hopping on a tren (ace), clen, and test (cypionate) cycle soon. I need your guys’ best advice on how I should break this cycle up in terms of dosages, how many weeks, etc. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact and cruising at 170 pounds. I’ve been cycled off from my last cycle for almost 3 months now but still pretty solid and and haven’t really lost any strength gains or physical gains. Let me know!
@aberz you're MIA we really missed you
before we talk new cycle, lets talk your situation
lets get your diet training in order can you share again?
 
tren + clen is absolutely NASTY man. i wouldn't even attempt it
Tren (ace), Clen, Test (cypionate) cycle:

Hello everyone, sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’ve posted over the summer on a cycle I was doing and you guys helped out a ton. I will be hopping on a tren (ace), clen, and test (cypionate) cycle soon. I need your guys’ best advice on how I should break this cycle up in terms of dosages, how many weeks, etc. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact and cruising at 170 pounds. I’ve been cycled off from my last cycle for almost 3 months now but still pretty solid and and haven’t really lost any strength gains or physical gains. Let me know!
Training and diet is the same. Nothing has changed with that. I might mix up the chicken with steak here and there but not too often. My training routine is the same and I don’t plan on changing it. It’s been working very well for me and I have yet to peak in weight increases.
 
Tren (ace), Clen, Test (cypionate) cycle:

Hello everyone, sorry I’ve been M.I.A. I’ve posted over the summer on a cycle I was doing and you guys helped out a ton. I will be hopping on a tren (ace), clen, and test (cypionate) cycle soon. I need your guys’ best advice on how I should break this cycle up in terms of dosages, how many weeks, etc. I’m 5’9 1/2 to be exact and cruising at 170 pounds. I’ve been cycled off from my last cycle for almost 3 months now but still pretty solid and and haven’t really lost any strength gains or physical gains. Let me know!
Ok so no clen with the tren. Got it, I’ll keep it out of the picture. Tren (ace) and test (cypionate). Best way to stack? What should my dosages be for every injection and for how many weeks?

Also what supps should I take especially because of the tren?
 
Ok so no clen with the tren. Got it, I’ll keep it out of the picture. Tren (ace) and test (cypionate). Best way to stack? What should my dosages be for every injection and for how many weeks?

Also what supps should I take especially because of the tren?
@aberz tren and clen usually no go

but test 300mgs tren 300mgs is enough
for the tren you need cardarine and n2guard as your ancillaries

you have the gear already?
 
@aberz check umbrella labs https://umbrellalabs.is
we have many guys who use them including me

@dylangemelli can make serious suggestions for you for umbrella he has a ton of bloods

you going to get some updates on diet training posted for us on this log?
Here my current training:

Chest progression:

Flat bench: 1st (205 12 reps), 2nd (225 8 reps), 3rd (245 6 reps)

Incline dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (85 7 reps), 3rd (95 8 reps)

Decline flys (slight decline): 1st (45 15 reps), 2nd (50 12 reps), 3rd (55 9 reps)

Cable flys (small hoist cables): 1st (55 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (65 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*)

Dumbbell pull over: 1st (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (70 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (80 7 reps)


Back progression

Wide grip chin ups: 1st (8 reps), 2nd (6 reps), 3rd (6 reps), 4th (assisted weight 30, 8 reps)

(Widest) grip lat pull down: 1st (145 15 reps *increase next week*), 2nd (150 10 reps), 3rd (155 8 reps), 4th (160 8 reps)

Medium reverse grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (125 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week), 3rd (135 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (145 10 reps)

Close grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (120 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (135 13 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (140 11 reps)

Hammer Strength one are row: 1st (55 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (65 11 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (70 10 reps)


Shoulders progression

Seated dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (80 15 reps), 3rd (90 11 reps), 4th ( 95 6 reps)

Cable upright row: 1st (155 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (175 9 reps)

Seated barbell press (behind the neck): 1st (95 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (105 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (115 9 reps), 4th (125 6 reps)

Standing lat raise: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 12 reps), 3rd (50 8 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Rear lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (45 10 reps), 4th (45 10 reps)

Cable lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (37.5 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (45 12 reps)


Arms progression

Close grip bench press: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*, 3rd (170 15 reps), 4th (180 10 reps)

One arm dumbbell extension: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 15 reps), 3rd (40 10 reps), 4th (40 7 reps)

Cable extension: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (170 8 reps)

Dips: 3 sets, max reps

Incline dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 11 reps), 3rd (50 6 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Alternate dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps), 2nd (50 9 reps), 3rd (55 6 reps), 4th (55 6 reps)

Dumbbell concentration curl: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 12 reps), 3rd (40 8 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Barbell curl: 1st (75 15 reps), 2nd (80 14 reps), 3rd (85 10 reps), 4th (90 8 reps)
 
meal 1

1 cup cooked Oatmeal

4 whole eggs cooked

(25g protein)

Workout




meal 2/post workout

shake - 2 scoops of whey, 4 tablespoons peanut butter in 12oz water or unsweetened almond milk

(70g protein)



meal 3

8oz grilled chicken

one cup rice

one cup dark vegetables

(60g protein)



meal 4

8oz steak

6oz sweet potato

one cup dark vegetables

(60g protein)



meal 5

shake - 2 scoops of whey, 4 tablespoons peanut butter in 12oz water or unsweetened almond milk

(70g protein)



meal 6

8oz ground beef or ground sirloin

one cup dark vegetables

one whole avocado
@aberz check umbrella labs https://umbrellalabs.is
we have many guys who use them including me

@dylangemelli can make serious suggestions for you for umbrella he has a ton of bloods

you going to get some updates on diet training posted for us on this log?
 
Here my current training:

Chest progression:

Flat bench: 1st (205 12 reps), 2nd (225 8 reps), 3rd (245 6 reps)

Incline dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (85 7 reps), 3rd (95 8 reps)

Decline flys (slight decline): 1st (45 15 reps), 2nd (50 12 reps), 3rd (55 9 reps)

Cable flys (small hoist cables): 1st (55 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (65 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*)

Dumbbell pull over: 1st (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (70 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (80 7 reps)


Back progression

Wide grip chin ups: 1st (8 reps), 2nd (6 reps), 3rd (6 reps), 4th (assisted weight 30, 8 reps)

(Widest) grip lat pull down: 1st (145 15 reps *increase next week*), 2nd (150 10 reps), 3rd (155 8 reps), 4th (160 8 reps)

Medium reverse grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (125 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week), 3rd (135 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (145 10 reps)

Close grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (120 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (135 13 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (140 11 reps)

Hammer Strength one are row: 1st (55 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (65 11 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (70 10 reps)


Shoulders progression

Seated dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (80 15 reps), 3rd (90 11 reps), 4th ( 95 6 reps)

Cable upright row: 1st (155 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (175 9 reps)

Seated barbell press (behind the neck): 1st (95 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (105 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (115 9 reps), 4th (125 6 reps)

Standing lat raise: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 12 reps), 3rd (50 8 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Rear lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (45 10 reps), 4th (45 10 reps)

Cable lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (37.5 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (45 12 reps)


Arms progression

Close grip bench press: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*, 3rd (170 15 reps), 4th (180 10 reps)

One arm dumbbell extension: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 15 reps), 3rd (40 10 reps), 4th (40 7 reps)

Cable extension: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (170 8 reps)

Dips: 3 sets, max reps

Incline dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 11 reps), 3rd (50 6 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Alternate dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps), 2nd (50 9 reps), 3rd (55 6 reps), 4th (55 6 reps)

Dumbbell concentration curl: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 12 reps), 3rd (40 8 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Barbell curl: 1st (75 15 reps), 2nd (80 14 reps), 3rd (85 10 reps), 4th (90 8 reps)
@aberz training going good and you saying you doing curls with 30lbs?
why no drop sets there?

meal 1

1 cup cooked Oatmeal

4 whole eggs cooked

(25g protein)

Workout




meal 2/post workout

shake - 2 scoops of whey, 4 tablespoons peanut butter in 12oz water or unsweetened almond milk

(70g protein)



meal 3

8oz grilled chicken

one cup rice

one cup dark vegetables

(60g protein)



meal 4

8oz steak

6oz sweet potato

one cup dark vegetables

(60g protein)



meal 5

shake - 2 scoops of whey, 4 tablespoons peanut butter in 12oz water or unsweetened almond milk

(70g protein)



meal 6

8oz ground beef or ground sirloin

one cup dark vegetables

one whole avocado
good diet but i see you need more protein post training imo and you need to add omega 3 fats like fish oil ed
you have probiotics and psyllium husk in the diet? post it up
 
good work
Here my current training:

Chest progression:

Flat bench: 1st (205 12 reps), 2nd (225 8 reps), 3rd (245 6 reps)

Incline dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (85 7 reps), 3rd (95 8 reps)

Decline flys (slight decline): 1st (45 15 reps), 2nd (50 12 reps), 3rd (55 9 reps)

Cable flys (small hoist cables): 1st (55 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (65 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*)

Dumbbell pull over: 1st (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (70 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (80 7 reps)


Back progression

Wide grip chin ups: 1st (8 reps), 2nd (6 reps), 3rd (6 reps), 4th (assisted weight 30, 8 reps)

(Widest) grip lat pull down: 1st (145 15 reps *increase next week*), 2nd (150 10 reps), 3rd (155 8 reps), 4th (160 8 reps)

Medium reverse grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (125 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week), 3rd (135 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (145 10 reps)

Close grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (120 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (135 13 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (140 11 reps)

Hammer Strength one are row: 1st (55 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (65 11 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (70 10 reps)


Shoulders progression

Seated dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (80 15 reps), 3rd (90 11 reps), 4th ( 95 6 reps)

Cable upright row: 1st (155 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (175 9 reps)

Seated barbell press (behind the neck): 1st (95 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (105 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (115 9 reps), 4th (125 6 reps)

Standing lat raise: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 12 reps), 3rd (50 8 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Rear lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (45 10 reps), 4th (45 10 reps)

Cable lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (37.5 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (45 12 reps)


Arms progression

Close grip bench press: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*, 3rd (170 15 reps), 4th (180 10 reps)

One arm dumbbell extension: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 15 reps), 3rd (40 10 reps), 4th (40 7 reps)

Cable extension: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (170 8 reps)

Dips: 3 sets, max reps

Incline dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 11 reps), 3rd (50 6 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Alternate dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps), 2nd (50 9 reps), 3rd (55 6 reps), 4th (55 6 reps)

Dumbbell concentration curl: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 12 reps), 3rd (40 8 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Barbell curl: 1st (75 15 reps), 2nd (80 14 reps), 3rd (85 10 reps), 4th (90 8 reps)

Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you guys think about this? What should I change? Should I remove the clen? How much tamoxifen should I take a week?
 
really no need to work out your shoulders in an entire split because they do get hit on push and pull days anyway
 
nice to see you're getting your vegetables and solid protein
 
Here my current training:

Chest progression:

Flat bench: 1st (205 12 reps), 2nd (225 8 reps), 3rd (245 6 reps)

Incline dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (85 7 reps), 3rd (95 8 reps)

Decline flys (slight decline): 1st (45 15 reps), 2nd (50 12 reps), 3rd (55 9 reps)

Cable flys (small hoist cables): 1st (55 20 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (65 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*)

Dumbbell pull over: 1st (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (70 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (80 7 reps)


Back progression

Wide grip chin ups: 1st (8 reps), 2nd (6 reps), 3rd (6 reps), 4th (assisted weight 30, 8 reps)

(Widest) grip lat pull down: 1st (145 15 reps *increase next week*), 2nd (150 10 reps), 3rd (155 8 reps), 4th (160 8 reps)

Medium reverse grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (125 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week), 3rd (135 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (145 10 reps)

Close grip lat pull down (squeeze at bottom): 1st (120 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (130 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (135 13 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (140 11 reps)

Hammer Strength one are row: 1st (55 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (60 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (65 11 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (70 10 reps)


Shoulders progression

Seated dumbbell press: 1st (75 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (80 15 reps), 3rd (90 11 reps), 4th ( 95 6 reps)

Cable upright row: 1st (155 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (175 9 reps)

Seated barbell press (behind the neck): 1st (95 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (105 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (115 9 reps), 4th (125 6 reps)

Standing lat raise: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 12 reps), 3rd (50 8 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Rear lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (40 12 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (45 10 reps), 4th (45 10 reps)

Cable lat raise: 1st (35 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (37.5 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (45 12 reps)


Arms progression

Close grip bench press: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*, 3rd (170 15 reps), 4th (180 10 reps)

One arm dumbbell extension: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 15 reps), 3rd (40 10 reps), 4th (40 7 reps)

Cable extension: 1st (150 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (160 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 3rd (165 10 reps *increase weight next week*), 4th (170 8 reps)

Dips: 3 sets, max reps

Incline dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps *increase weight next week*), 2nd (45 11 reps), 3rd (50 6 reps), 4th (50 6 reps)

Alternate dumbbell curl: 1st (40 15 reps), 2nd (50 9 reps), 3rd (55 6 reps), 4th (55 6 reps)

Dumbbell concentration curl: 1st (30 15 reps), 2nd (35 12 reps), 3rd (40 8 reps), 4th (40 8 reps)

Barbell curl: 1st (75 15 reps), 2nd (80 14 reps), 3rd (85 10 reps), 4th (90 8 reps)
Let me know what you guys think of the cycle I attached to this.
 
@aberz training going good and you saying you doing curls with 30lbs?
why no drop sets there?


good diet but i see you need more protein post training imo and you need to add omega 3 fats like fish oil ed
you have probiotics and psyllium husk in the diet? post it up
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
 
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
@aberz I like this cycle but why did you pick acetate on tren? much better to use enanthate if you ask me if you have a test cypionate ester.
rest is fine but I would stay at clen 20mcg not go over
how about cardarine gw for tren cough sides? I would add 10mgs/day
 
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
drop the clen, it doesn't go well with tren. way too dangerous

clen at that dosage won't do anything anyway so its pointless.
 
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
I like layout except I am not a big clen fan
 
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
Sorry I guys I know it’s been a while. Haven’t started my cycle yet, will be starting in about 3 more weeks. Just another question; Should I start tren from day 1 week 1 or start off with just the test and add the tren in a bit later?

I’ve been cycled off since mid October. That’s why I’m asking if I should start the tren right away or wait a little bit into my cycle?
 
Sorry I guys I know it’s been a while. Haven’t started my cycle yet, will be starting in about 3 more weeks. Just another question; Should I start tren from day 1 week 1 or start off with just the test and add the tren in a bit later?

I’ve been cycled off since mid October. That’s why I’m asking if I should start the tren right away or wait a little bit into my cycle?
@aberz this cycle you just dropped off, so how do we know you'll be dedicated next cycle? sad to see you just drop off like this man. I was following your log.
You going to post a NEW log with this tren cycle?

you should start all injectables from day one if you ask me. Same goes for tren.
 
@aberz this cycle you just dropped off, so how do we know you'll be dedicated next cycle? sad to see you just drop off like this man. I was following your log.
You going to post a NEW log with this tren cycle?

you should start all injectables from day one if you ask me. Same goes for tren.
I didn’t drop off I’m waiting til after I’m done fasting that’s all brother. Starting my cycle April 11.
 
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anythin
Week 1-16

-200mgs trenbolone ace/week
-300mgs testosterone cypionate/week
-50mgs anavar/day
-7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support)
-tamoxifen
-clenbuterol, add 20mcg 2 days on 2 days off

What do you think about this, should I change or remove anything?
I won’t be taking clen. So I’ll be doing the following starting April 11:

-200mgs Tren Ace/week
-300mgs Test Cyp/week
-7 caps n2guard every day
-20mgs Tamoxifen/week
-thinking of adding in 50mgs Winstrol every day, let me know what you guys think about that or Anavar

Also, should I increase the dosage of Tren and Test eventually? If so, what should I increase the dosage to and how far into in my cycle?
 
I won’t be taking clen. So I’ll be doing the following starting April 11:
-200mgs Tren Ace/week
-300mgs Test Cyp/week
-7 caps n2guard every day
-20mgs Tamoxifen/week
-thinking of adding in 50mgs Winstrol every day, let me know what you guys think about that or Anavar

Also, should I increase the dosage of Tren and Test eventually? If so, what should I increase the dosage to and how far into in my cycle?
I won’t be taking clen. So I’ll be doing the following starting April 11:

-200mgs Tren Ace/week
-300mgs Test Cyp/week
-7 caps n2guard every day
-20mgs Tamoxifen/week
-thinking of adding in 50mgs Winstrol every day, let me know what you guys think about that or Anavar

Also, should I increase the dosage of Tren and Test eventually? If so, what should I increase the dosage to and how far into in my cycle?
Running this cycle for 12 weeks
 
I didn’t drop off I’m waiting til after I’m done fasting that’s all brother. Starting my cycle April 11.
@aberz you did drop off bro
you didnt update us told us nothing
so you fasting eating nothing at all? whats your situation

I won’t be taking clen. So I’ll be doing the following starting April 11:

-200mgs Tren Ace/week
-300mgs Test Cyp/week
-7 caps n2guard every day
-20mgs Tamoxifen/week
-thinking of adding in 50mgs Winstrol every day, let me know what you guys think about that or Anavar

Also, should I increase the dosage of Tren and Test eventually? If so, what should I increase the dosage to and how far into in my cycle?
@aberz we cant tell you to increase dose
can you tell us what you're doing now for diet training? how fair into it are you now
details please
 
@aberz you did drop off bro
you didnt update us told us nothing
so you fasting eating nothing at all? whats your situation


@aberz we cant tell you to increase dose
can you tell us what you're doing now for diet training? how fair into it are you now
details please
I postponed starting my cycle til April 11. Just fasting sunrise to sunset. No food or water, nothing. Diet is still the same that I posted along with training.
 
@aberz you did drop off bro
you didnt update us told us nothing
so you fasting eating nothing at all? whats your situation


@aberz we cant tell you to increase dose
can you tell us what you're doing now for diet training? how fair into it are you now
details please
I didn’t mean to drop off that way.
 
@aberz you did drop off bro
you didnt update us told us nothing
so you fasting eating nothing at all? whats your situation


@aberz we cant tell you to increase dose
can you tell us what you're doing now for diet training? how fair into it are you now
details please
Would you recommend I increase the dosage or keep it the same throughout the 12 weeks?
 
I won’t be taking clen. So I’ll be doing the following starting April 11:

-200mgs Tren Ace/week
-300mgs Test Cyp/week
-7 caps n2guard every day
-20mgs Tamoxifen/week
-thinking of adding in 50mgs Winstrol every day, let me know what you guys think about that or Anavar

Also, should I increase the dosage of Tren and Test eventually? If so, what should I increase the dosage to and how far into in my cycle?
That'll come down to how you feel and progress.
 
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