man this bites!!!!!

[SonnyBlack]

this sux!!!ive incorporated the 12 hour carb up (taken from mr x's manual) into my diet of high protein, low fat, and low carbs....and all that it has done for me is push me 13 pds more than i was before on the scale. Last tuesday (after my first carb up) i was up ten pds...mrx told me to not worry about it and that it was just water weight and that i would drop it within the week. Well i didnt! This past Sunday i took my second crack at the carb up... and i went up another 3 pds more (on top of the last ten) man this is pissin me off. I started doin the carb up bcus i heard it would help with my stalled fat loss, but all it has done is made me gain weight on the scale as well as retain water. Can anyone help me out with this dilemma....im really confused brother

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

Why don't you just find some cardio workout you like, eat normally and train in the weight room instead of torturing yourself with some diet?

 

[diamonddiceclay]

if you want a diet that will drop fat and is easy to understand, buy"the metabolic diet"by mauro dipasquale.

 

[Mr.X]

There is a very simple solution to your problem:

You retained all the water from the carb-up, than during your Ketosis week, you had high-sodium and, in turn, you kept the water. (the water can help training by the way) Sometimes people don't drop water on CKD due to their diet, hence high-sodium.

What does your meal plan look like?

Mr.X

 

[SonnyBlack]

well i eat stuff like whole eggs, steak, tuna with mayo...stuff like that as well as crystal light and water. thats about it.

 

[Mr.X]

The sodium is probably the problem, yet you might have to wait until your body adjusts to acidosis and hightens the PH levels to normal. This might be the cause of water retension too.

Mr.X

 

[SonnyBlack]

then do i keep on having the carb up day...or is it just hurting me in the long run????are they just making me gain weight???wat do u think??

 

[SonnyBlack]

bump. so wat do u think then mr x???

 

[Mr.X]

I don't think you are clear with the point I am trying to get across. The weight you are gaining is NOT fat, it's WATER. You need the carb-up to have proper leptin level. Just keep sodium low during the week, stay on the diet, and give it some time, for your body will adjust and you'll drop the water sooner or later. For now, I would recommend just sticking to the 6/1 plan I outlined in my CKD manual and you'll be fine.

Mr.X

 

[SonnyBlack]

cool bro..thanx...sorry for having been such a pest all this time...your the best bro!

 

[Mr.X]

My friend, don't worry...you are not a pest, for I am here to help... Just relax and go with the flow and you'll do great , I promise.

Mr.X

 

[jank]

Mr. X,

I noticed that you allow for 0 carbs in your diet. Is this absolutely necessary? I know diets like Atkins allows for up to 20 g per day to enter a ketogenic state. The reason that I ask is that completely cutting out carbs disallows eating things like egg whites and whey protein powders.

Also, other than flax seed oil, are there any good sources of fat that are carb free and low or devoid of protein?

Last question. In relation to SonnyBlack's comments, is your CKD diet good for a quick cut up? I am going to the beach in about two and a half weeks and I am looking to lose as much bf as possible between now and then, but I don't want to be retaining a lot of water to do so. Sort of defeats the purpose.

 

[cozmokramer]

hey... his diet is LOW FAT and LOW CARBS...

shouldn't he be taking in quite a bit of fat while
in a ketogenic state?

 

[Mr.X]

Jank, yes, I do recommend very near 0 carbs. Yet, in reality I do not see this possible for many people, this is why I tell people it's fine to eat eggs and some cheese, as long as carbs are (10-15 tops). Plus, I do not consider the mere calories in 10 carbs to be problematic idea while running CKD.

CD is good for cutting up. Yet, if you are going to the beach in 2 weeks, I would recommend you run a SKD (standard-ketonic-diet), i.e. Atkins w/ no carb-up.
You can have a day of protein only (high-protein, low-fat,low-carb) prior to going to the beach, in order to refill some muscle glycogen and make you look full.

Mr.X

 

[jank]

Do you have a protein/fat/carb breakdown for the SKD (similiar to that of the CKD, TKD, and MKD)? Can I just use the prescribed protein and fat amounts from the CKD spreadsheet with an additional 10-15 carb grams per day and no carb-up day?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Mr.X]

You can surely use my CKD ratios for your SKD, just instead of the day 7 carb-up, have 50% protein/50% fat...

P.S. the 10-15 carbs are nothing, they are really not significant at all, and will not replace a carb-up.

Mr.X

 

[SonnyBlack]

is it better if i add fat to my diet of low carb, high protein, and low fat COZMOKRAMER?????

 

[Mr.X]

CozmoKramer, I think he is using a CKD not a high-protein/low-fat/low-carb diet.

SonnyBlack, don't worry, I'm sure you have enough fat as is, in your diet.

Mr.X

 

[SonnyBlack]

cool...thanx bro!!!